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Whats your guy's opinion on this coin. By the way, I think I already know your answeres.   Edited by Tykimeister
02/10/2007 5:50 pm
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I'd give it an EF-40 for detail. The heavy marks on forehead and hairline are a bit distracting and might keep the grade down.
Maybe it's just the photo, but the surfaces look washed out and the rims look damaged, especially on the obverse. Was this coin perhaps mounted in jewelery at some time?
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The 3 and the lettering on the obverse look different to my untrained eye, but it's probably the pictures. As for grade, I would agree on EF.
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I would say it is a fake. The portrait is just wrong.....way too mushy, and the CC, not even close.  |
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That's such a poor counterfeit that it's obvious even in poor photos.
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That would explain my  . I really wanted to ask if this coin was real, but I thought I'd look even more stupid than just questioning it and posting a grade. |
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I agree with Dave, it looks like someone put the denticals in the obverse with their teeth.  |
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I'm pretty sure it's a fake. There was a guy at the flea marker trying to sell a bunch of fake Morgans and Trade dollars for high amounds. Maybe I'll go try and peddling this off on him. A fake it is. Ty |
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maybe the CC stands for Central China on this coin
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Edited by hadleydog
02/12/2007 5:34 pm
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Hey, hadleydog, I'll trade you my wife for that real one.
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Hey, hadleydog, I'll trade you my wife for that real one.
She slabbed? Sadly, I do not own the coin. I was looking for a decent representative of the date to compare with and found this beauty in the Heritage archives. Would you believe she's only graded 64..........even with the chatter I can see on the cheek and in the left field she easily looks 65. Edited by hadleydog
02/12/2007 5:35 pm
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She slabbed?
No, but sometimes I could.....never mind. I cannot believe that coin is not in a 65 slab. That must have been part of a bulk submission from a dealer the grader didn't like. |
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What are the parts that tipped everyone off that it was a fake? I noticed the 3 looking off, and something seems weird about the liberty, but I would have figured it was damage. What areas of a Morgan do forgers usually mess up on? Thanks
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cpfull, the first thing I look at on a rare date raw coin is the mintmark........especially on Carson City's. One quick look at the coin in question vs the real CC I posted and you can see something sure ain't right........ mm of coin in question vs real one   Image:  cc.jpg28.4 KB Image: ccrealone.jpg43.24 KB Edited by hadleydog
02/12/2007 7:37 pm
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A couple things tipped me off: The obverse was entirely too weak - look at how much hair detail is missing - and the denticles were lacking in the precision one would expect of a Morgan strike.
And, the 1921-only reverse on an 1893 was kinda conclusive.
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