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2000 D Five Cent ?

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Can someone tell me what happened with this coin. It looks to me like it was struck and spun around and got struck over and over at least 3 or 4 times. If you didn't know. Use ctrl and either +- or mouse scroll to zoom in and out, red lines and circles are things that are the same. black lines are extra pieces of letters. blue is a void in the nose and green is I dont know what that is

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All I see is a circular scratch which may have came from a coin rolling machine. I don't see any evidence of doubling or multiple strikes. Maybe closer, clearer pictures? I tried zooming in, but it just got too grainy to see enough detail.

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dave 42 look at the nose look at the backside there are pieces of letters along the rim between letters and right before the L in liberty there is the bottom piece of an l. I have know problems zooming. this coin has little Cuds (for lack of a better word) all over it. if I could take a better pic I would
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 Posted 05/13/2012  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of the high spots look like PMD to me and not die chips.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

2000-D-Five-Cent-?

This image indicates your ability to post close up photos.If you would do this for both post we might be able to help.

Marking the shot to illustrate what you see is fine but it would be nice to have the same image unmarked to compare.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the new photo.I agree with pyrbob,all PMD
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i AM BOT SURE YOU CAN ADD METAL TO SPOTS ON A NICKEL TO CREATE HIGH SPOTS (i MEAN YOU COULD BUT WHO WOULD)PYRBOB could you explain PMD that puts high spots on a coin that when tilted almost flat and looked at from that angle look just like pieces of letters. I dont mean to sound sarcastic but damage that raises high spots is ridiculous. preposterous even. I wish you guys could the coin in person because I took it to a dealer I know and he said it was just like I said it was. it got stuck and struck three or more times and moved a around a bit between strikes. so much for this site
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 Posted 05/13/2012  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hang in there with us. Don't be so fast to leave. The first thing I think is when a coin turns and is struck multiple times the previous strikes are completely flatened by the last strike and will not give bumps on the coin. The previous strikes leave lines on the coin instead of bumps. So even if I thought this was a multiple strike I still don't think it would look like this. Also be careful about taking a coin to one dealer and thinking you have an expert opinion. Most dealers do not have knowledge of error coins but will give you an uneducated opinion before admitting that. Now with that being said I would suggest taking the coin to some other dealers and see what they say. Make sure they are dealers with error coin experience. I hope your find is a good one but for now I will stick with PMD.
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Mudd. to CCF.. For a definative answer I would send the pics or a link to this thread to Mike Diamond....mdia1@aol.com.
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Amida thank you. That is an even better idea.
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If you get a reply from Mr. Diamond, would you please share that with us? I always learn something from him.

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I have some like that... DDDDDs Everywhere!! thought it was some gas reaction and thats how it split the metals...i am interested in finding out.
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Here is an example


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 Posted 05/14/2012  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's all post-strike damage. There is no error.
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damage that raises high spots is ridiculous. preposterous even.

LOL, it is perfectly plausible and it is called impact displacement. When a hard object makes contact with a coin, a mark is made on the surface. That mark could be a ding or a gouge but metal from the impact does not just "disappear", it is raised around the area of impact just like an asteroid striking Earth. Your wishful thinking is not going to make it anything more than a damaged coin covered with bagmarks.

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I took it to a dealer I know and he said it was just like I said it was.

the vast majority of dealers do not know squat about errors since they are generalists, not specialists. If you were to go to a coin show with me, I bet I could easily pick out at least a half dozen damaged coins misattributed as errors. You would be surprised how little knowledge the average dealer or collector has about the minting process. If you do not know how a coin is created, then you are not going to know how an error can be created.
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 Posted 05/14/2012  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@penny4urthoughts: Your cent is just corroded.
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