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Notice anything amiss here, with this Spanish (Segovia) 1832 2 Maravedies?

Spain---See-Anything-Wrong?-----<s>

Spain---See-Anything-Wrong?-----<s>





Bill
(Hint - check King Ferdinand the 7th's name).
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He was demoted, taken down a few Ferdinands!
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Not a bad contemporary counterfeit or Monrach Error.

Depends on one's background and what KM indicates.

The upside down Mexico City/Monarch issues in the 2 Reales series is an error and not a contemporary as these issue are 90% silver as confirmed by XRF testing. Could be the case here. More of an error than a contemporary.

Never seen this before - but I don't hunt this denomination/country.

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05/14/2012 10:28 am
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John,

This error is listed in Vico, Krause, and other reference.


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Seems to be an error. In my 2 Reales comparison I should have said Mexico City/Assayer (not monarch) being an upside down error. This error reminds me of this other well-known error. Most misnomers fall into a contemporary status but since the metal is copper and not an off-metal we think ERROR as is this case here. Nice! Value? Just curious. The KM listed value?
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And the Winner of this little quiz, for having the 1st right answer, is SVSLAV!!!
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John,

In my rather old 2004 Krause, this error lists for $15 in Fine.

(It is $50 in EF). ((Just kidding))!


Bill

P.S. - I collect (among other things), coins officially (Mint) produced coins with the King's name mis-spelled (as GEOGIVS), and those with the Date numerals transposed (as, 1285 for 1825).
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Almost all GEOGIVS are contemporary for halfpence and farthings for GII or GIII. No exceptions - from memory.
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I could see how a die-cutter would make this error...punching in "VII", which actually strikes "IIV" into the coin--nice error!
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Actually - Bill for this GEORGIVS error in the 1/2d and 1/4d CC series the retrograde S is the most common error then the missing "letter" like the "R" punch. However during 1770-1775 regal period there may be a regla issue with this error. Ironically I was so consumed on the CC side not sure if there were regal errors issued of this nature at The Royal Mint <BG>.
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Almost all GEOGIVS are contemporary for halfpence and farthings for GII or GIII. No exceptions - from memory.


John - If you mean by 'contemporary' that the GEOGIVS coppers are contemporary counterfeits, I disagree!

Please check your Spink's COINS OF ENGLAND AND THE UNITED KINGDOM, which is THE authority on English coinage. (And I must not fail to mention Peck's ENGLISH COPPER, TIN and BRONZE in the British Museum, 1558-1958).


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Actually - Bill for this GEORGIVS error in the 1/2d and 1/4d CC series the retrograde S is the most common error then the missing "letter" like the "R" punch. However during 1770-1775 regal period there may be a regla issue with this error. Ironically I was so consumed on the CC side not sure if there were regal errors issued of this nature at The Royal Mint <BG>.


Hi John,

Understood!


All the best,
Bill
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