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New Member
United States
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hello folks , my name is lee and I've been detecting in the usa for about 10 months now but did do a lot in england when I was younger. anyway, I found this large cent the other day on the site of an old tavern built in 1634. ive been told on another forum that allthough this is a 99 over 98 it is not the coverted one, and the minting is very unusal. my question is this,could someone explain to me how rare this is and what I acturly have here in plain english. thanks lee    |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi Lee ...... Welcome aboard!
Coincidentally, I just borrowed the newest Noyes book on early large cents from a friend. Having owned a 1799 and studied the dies a bit, your coin didn't look like the few dies for that year. So, I backtracked to 1798 and compared it to the great pics in the Noyes book. The obverse die breaks are telling, as I expected. Your coin appears to be a 1798 S-173 terminal die state.
To confirm my attribution, I forwarded a pic of your coin to a friend who's a full time EAC dealer-member and a specialist in 1798's. He agrees. Let's see if some others on the CCF chime in ...
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 It does appear to be the 98. Not sure which variety but all about the same value in AG-3 grade. That is About Good which is the lowest grade used for those Large Cents on a regular basis. All varieties sell for about $30 to $60 in that condition. IF it was the 99 it would have been in the selling range of about $1,000. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That is one impressive metal detector find! Congrats!  It is hard to believe it has been in the ground that much and still to look so nice!  It looks like it has some Cuds on the obverse, top of the coin. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Exoguy nailed it 1798 S-173 in either terminal or near terminal die state. It does have a connection to the 1799's though. The reverse was used for the 1799/8 NC-1, but it was used for the 1799 before it was used for the 1798 S-173. (I'm not sure but didn't I call this same coin on a different forum about a week ago?)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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For comparison here's a pic of a choice 1798 S-173 from the cabinet of Big Penny of EAC fame:  Note the telling die breaks; their comparatively later progression that's quite evident on the subject coin. |
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 United States
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Nice, original looking S-173 :)
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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BTW, in talking with a friend about the S-173, I was told that thre are some who much appreciate the so-called terminal die states, and the value of the subject coin is, despite its condition, enhanced by that factor.
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Valued Member
United States
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That's a cool find! I had the same problem identifying two large cents with obliterated dates. It took a long time just looking at them under a light to figure them out. I agree with it being a 1798.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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wow what a find congrats and 1798 I agree with everyone else
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New Member
 United States
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thank you so much folks , I am grateful for your input and knowledge .
i see exoguy knew of some people who might be interested in this particular die state , does anyone know of a place I may be able to sell it ?....I'm saving up to buy an E track detector so I can go out and find some deeper buried history !!!.
to be honest I just like holding and looking at coins this old and imagining what the person who dropped it was waring and what they looked like. yer I know its silly but "hay" each to there own eh ?.
cheers people.
lee
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