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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
Darkly toned, nice surfaces but no real underlying lustre. I think we know what a lot of dealers would do with this one. What grade say you?   |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1607 Posts |
almost EF & with a dip aUNC LOL,should'nt laugh about it though.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
7096 Posts |
Ef toned. Nice reverse and full centre diamond on the obverse. Some signs of circulation on the rim and fields of the coin Nice honest coin. I'm not a big fan of darkly toned silver but this is very nice. Not often these 1915 shillings turn up in good condition. Would be a welcome addition to any pre decimal collection any day. Congratulations great coin  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Not mine unfortunately. It's just living here for a week or two. It's an interesting coin and I don't usually handle circulated coins so I thought I'd post it up here for your opinions. Personally I call it EF.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
Looks like a bit of a bullet hole behind the King's head.
Would detract from the value somewhat.
At least, it didn't SUBtract the King!
nEF.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
4411 Posts |
 EF is fair |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Not mine unfortunately. It's just living here for a week or two I would consider adopting this one  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
7096 Posts |
Is that a die crack between the centre diamond and the jewels to the right of it  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
541 Posts |
It's at least gEF - it should still therefore have mint bloom (though dulled in the exposed fields) - if there's none it could be a sign of a past dip.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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It's at least gEF - it should still therefore have mint bloom (though dulled in the exposed fields) - if there's none it could be a sign of a past dip.
I tend to but it is still a good exaple of this coin |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1006 Posts |
Definetly EF probably gEF. The obverse looks great especially the emu which has a lot of the feathers still on it as well as the shield which still has a lot of detail on it.
Edited by oh my florin
06/10/2013 06:54 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
869 Posts |
EF or above...for sure. Really clear & excelletn definition.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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It's at least gEF - it should still therefore have mint bloom Not necessarily. Grading is due to wear and lustre/tone is due to chemical reactions. They can be quite independent of each other. The perfect example is the early 70s mint sets. The coins are uncirculated but many of them are very toned. The 1915 Shilling is a nice coin but is lacking on eye appeal. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The 1915 Shilling is a nice coin but is lacking on eye appeal.
I agree but technically this is EF |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Grading is due to wear and lustre/tone is due to chemical reactions. Grading is due to wear yes, wear is overwhelmingly the primary cause of loss of lustre. The exception as you say is chemical damage, but for a silver coin to be completely void of lustre due to chemical reactions, it would require extensive chemical damage to the surface (such as long term PVC exposure or repeated/prolonged use of an acidic silver dip). That isn't desirable either and was my point (in case you missed it). Quote:
They can be quite independent of each other. Can yes, but only when some other form of surface damage is present (e.g. mechnical cleaning, PVC exposure and silver dip are the most common for silver coins). Most coins will have lustre agreeing with the grading. Quote:
The perfect example is the early 70s mint sets. The coins are uncirculated but many of them are very toned. That's caused by PVC exposure over a long period of time (i.e. chemical surface damage). |
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Australia
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No my point wasn't about chemical damage and PVC damage.
Most of the toning I have sen on early 70s mint sets is due to the coins being handled. Copper and Silver coins are especially susceptible to toning due to being handled too much. Humidity and pollutants in the air can also tone coins. None of these things would affect the grade (or wear) on the coin.
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Posted 05/16/2012 01:19 am
