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Any ideas what this is?   |
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correction: british 1 Sovereign  can you get closer and clearer pictures Edited by Fuzzy317
05/18/2012 10:01 pm
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Unfortunately it isn't in my possession, rather on a website for an auction I am attending. It's Canadian (supposedly). Closest I've found yet is they had 1953 commemorative coins with the queen on a horse (haven't seen the picture) but the other side had the coat of arms for the UK, where this looks like typical Canadian.
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United States
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Welcome to the community!
It's rather supposed to be sovereign or half sovereign (depending on the size). The thing is there are only a handfull of them in existence dated 1953. So the value, if genuine, would be in five figures. That puts a big question of authenticity!
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So what does one look for in authenticity? Coin is part of an estate auction for a local man who owned many stores in the community.
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If that is a small jewelry box, that would put the coin about 1 inch across |
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Canada
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Yes, it looks like a necklace or ring size box.
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United States
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A full sov is 22 mm in diameter, half is only 19.
It's hard to establish authenticity without coin in hand or even clear pictures. At this point I'd say there's greater chance that it's a copy. As I mentioned the real thing would be 25,000 - 50,000 (British pounds) and it wouldn't be sold at a second rate auction.
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Canada
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Where would one find the data on number of coins produced per year? Does it make a difference which country (I just read several countries produced these British Sovereigns)?
On a somewhat unrelated note, he also has several 1937 paper bills and I have no idea about bills. Anyone here knowledgeable? I read a bit about them and it mentions different values based on Coyne-Towers, Gordon-Towers and Osborne-Towers but I have no idea what that means? One is a 1937 uncirculated $10/
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Coin catalogs usually have mintage figures. I have a "Coincraft" standard catalog of British coins, and it says "Possibly about 10 exist" for 1953 full sovereign, and nothing specific for a half, just that it was only a pattern, and is extremely rare.
And, yes, other Commonwealth mints produced sovereigns, but not since 1931/32.
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Canada
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If Canadian, it will have a "C" mint mark in the ground under the horse's hooves... which I can't discern.
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The only country to mint sovereigns after 1932 was Great Britain. And, as others have said, 1953 is an extremely scarce date. I will point out that it can't possibly be a 1953 coin, because coins with that date had a different legend around the portrait, which included the letters "BRITT:OMN:" after GRATIA. I'd ask to check that it really is "1953"; I can't read it clearly in the pic, and coins dated from 1957-1968 without BRITT OMN are much more common. If it really is 1953, then it's definitely a replica of some sort. If its another date, then it's most likely genuine. Quote:
I read a bit about them and it mentions different values based on Coyne-Towers, Gordon-Towers and Osborne-Towers but I have no idea what that means? That would be different signature combinations. Ask about them (and preferably post some pics) in the Canadian subforum. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Osborne-Towers, Gordon Towers, and Coyne-Towers are the signature combinations on 1937 Canadian paper money. The Osborne issues were made until October 1937, while the Gordon issues started in November 1938. The Coyne issues started in 1950. All Osborne issues are at least scarce, while specific Gordon and Coyne issues are scarce.
I suspect your sovereign is a 1958 , or possibly a 1959. It is British, not canadian- the only Cnandian ones were from 1908-1919.
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