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I have a (hopefully) quick, easy question regarding some of the mintage figures in the Red Book. I've looked all over the book but can't seem to find the answer. It's probably there; I'm certainly just missing it but I figured it would be faster to ask than read the thing cover to cover.

Occasionally you'll see figures in parentheses next to the mintage #. For instance, for 1950-51 Franklin halves the listing looks like:

1950.......... (51,386) ... 7,742,123
1950D...................... 8,031,600
1951.......... (57,500) .. 16,802,102
1951D...................... 9,475,200


What are the values in parenthesis? I can only imagine that is a proof mintage figure. If so, does that represent a part of the total mintage or additional mintage?

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I've wondered this too. I think it is proofs that were minted, but we shall wait for the correct answer :)
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The numbers in parentheses are proof mintages and I believe that is separate from circulation mintage.
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Yes, they are proofs and are separate from the regular mintage numbers.
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Thanks, guys! Any idea if that's in a legend somewhere in the Red Book? If so, where?
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Not a legend, but a mention. It is buried in the Introduction. Welcome to Numismatics section, at the end of subsection Quantities of Coins Struck.
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jbuck, thanks. It helps to read all the information first being a retired teacher
CelticKnot, we learn some thing every day. One Mick to another Mick.lol
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Aren't proofs only San Francisco mints? If so why wouldn't they just list the mint type S?
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Because...

1. Before 1965, proofs were made in Philadelphia; most of the time right along side circulation strikes (some proof only years exist).
2. Both proof and circulation strike S-Minted cents were made from 1968 to 1974, nickels from 1968 to 1970, and dollars from 1979 to 1981.
3. S-Minted circulation strike (NIFC) 40% silver quarters (1976), half dollars (1976), and dollars (1971-1976) exist.

I hope I got it all.
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The same question came up in the paat and someone found where it was stated that numbers in ( ) were for proofs. Odd if you have the lastest edition of the Red Book, page 8 says how to use this book, and that is not there or I missed it.
There is a sort of brief explanation of proofs on page 9 and more on page 343 yet no explanation of why the numbers in ( ) are for Proofs. It's there somewhere. Must be Whitman's way to make people read the entire book.
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jbuck, right you are! Thanks. Found it on page 21 of the 2012 Red Book, last sentence of the "Quantities of Coins Struck" section as you suggested.
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