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How Many Of You Would Of Think This Is PMD?

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-WASH-2...em5d33a9dd94

Another error coin from Fred Weinberg on ebay.

If you happen to find this coin in circulation, what maybe your first guess?
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It honestly doesn't look damaged. The integrity of the remaining coin is still intact quite well. I can't think of a possible way to recreate this even with well placed acid
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I would initially think PMD if I found it in circulation. But upon further examination I would agree with GO and come to the conclusion that its a genuine planchet defect, a top indicator being the flow of metal around the problem area.
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Looks genuine enough for me. I have a few similar defect coins from The Royal Mint. Different Mint, same type of defect.
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At first I would think PMD. Then I would post a photo here for the pros to see and comment.
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It's a genuine planchet defect. It appears to represent a natural fissure that opened up in the coin metal strip during rolling. The blanking die sliced through the fissure.
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Mike,

Does this happen either in the beginning or end of the coin metal strip? I would have thought that it wold be thinner.
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I have a 1958 cent with a similar (but smaller) piece of missing metal. No way any tool or acid could have caused it; it's obvious the coin was struck around the missing area. Besides, Mr. Weinberg knows his stuff; I've spoken to him at shows on a few occasions. Always learn a lot from him!
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Initial thought would be PMD, but real McCoy, would like to see in hand though.

Obv kinda of looks like one of those Pac Man monsters.
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Any time I see a coin with significant damage I give it a good solid look. Sometimes it just satisfies my curiosity of how it happened, but it's also to catch things like this. Yeah, my initial thought would be damage, but I think I'd recognize it as an error when I took a second look.

My best error find (that shattered die dime) I spotted first by the edge. The pieces of the die had enough vertical displacement to warp the coin a whole lot, making it look bent. Now I take a good solid look at any "bent" coin, which is also how I spotted another dime with a catastrophically failing die.

I also have an incomplete planchet dime that some forum members took for post-mint damage because the edge was ragged. But a close examination shows it's real.

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for that broken planchet, Captain.

I will have to look for that penny I once thought maybe PMD, now if I can find it with my pile of mess.
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Neat looking dime Captain
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