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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
I bought this shipwreck 8R yesterday and I'm totally digging the coral encrustation with the shell and everything :) Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's a Mexican shield type cob but I was hoping any of you experts out there might be able to narrow down the attribution at all. Thanks in advance.   |
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Pillar of the Community
France
1591 Posts |
It's from Mexico for sure (cross type) - but apart from that, not sure I can help :/
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Valued Member
United States
80 Posts |
Shield appears to be Carlos II, 1665-1700.
Mike
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Pillar of the Community
France
1591 Posts |
Can you elaborate ?
The shield were not the same depending on the places, and I don't have mexican 8 reales for all those periods to compare ...
But I just checked one of mine from Felipe II, and it looks alike.
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Valued Member
United States
80 Posts |
Mathieu.
Look at the bars in the Austrian location in the shield. My Felipe II Mexican has three lines instead of the four in this piece. See if you can verify this.
Mike
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts |
Mexico, shield style of early-to-mid assayer P (1634-54). Looking secondarily at the lion style, mid-1640's is about right. Fairly solid piece under the crust, typical shape/strike for this period... Couldn't really offer a "probable" shipwreck source, though - no obvious telltale seawear pattern and/or style of conservation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts |
Just noticing you're from Australia... If it originated from there, a reasonable guess might be the Vergulde Draeck wreck. Most of the pieces this wreck produced date a few years later (mainly Mex. 1652-53), and almost all I've seen are (now) free of encrustation and have a very even tan patina to them. They are generally, however, quite well preserved, as yours is, and I have seen a few that date into the later 1640's, so it wouldn't be impossible.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts |
In general, you can't go nuts looking at things like "how many bars in Austria", "how many fleurs in Burgundy"... Very difficult to rely on individual features in a hard-and-fast manner as varieties/variants abound. You have to step back, look at the overall design and proceed from there.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
684 Posts |
Love this coin, all the stuff on it. Trust you will not clean it. I think it is a KM-45 type. Attached for reference are pics from my type set of of a 1652/1 Mexico 8R. KM-45, CAL-396, CALB-668.   |
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
1295 Posts |
Wow, thanks for the help guys :) Much more help than I expected. And Westwood Arms, no it will not be getting cleaned :)
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