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 Posted 06/09/2012  3:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add barriecarson to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I came across these error nickels on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/33069652502...t_1247wt_689

What do you guys think? Charlton does not recognize these varieties in there 2012 edition.

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 Posted 06/09/2012  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Charlton's can't possibly list all known varieties,it would take thousands of pages to do so.
Here's a list posted recently by glenzy,just for 1964 nickels.The list for all nickels would be staggering.
The varieties of those in the auction linked to are quite well known and I'd be surprised if the bugtail and extra waterline haven't been listed in Charlton's at some time.
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Quote:

Charlton does not recognize these varieties in there 2012 edition.


Page 102 for the 1964 XWL

Charlton don't list the others, but the 1957 Bug Tail and 1962 Doubled Date are very well known, and listed in CCN Trends.

1957 Bug Tail - VF: $3
1962 DD - EF: $4
1964 XWL - EF: $30

Anyone want to have a semantic discussion of what is a "variety" versus what is an "error"? I'd say a variety was an intentional creation, whereas an error was not.




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Agreed, dialog. New dies, new polishing, re-engraved letters, dates, or portions of the design (as opposed to Machine Doubling, etc) or any other variation produced and sanctioned by the mint would be a variety. Any mistake, accident (including rotated dies and a host of other machine errors, die defects or planchet defects) would fall under the error category.
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Oh yes, I do see the 1964 XWL in Charlton.

So is the auction price seem far for the 4 error coins?
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A bit on the high side. You'd be paying for the convenience of getting all 4 at once. The XWL is worth more than than the other 3 combined and would need to be MS to be worth the price.
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Thanks Kuh-85
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The bald beaver is probably worth $4 full retail, so the offering is basically full trends for the four coins ($40).

I expect a good discount for any ebay purchase, especially a lot.
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 Posted 06/09/2012  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Center Pin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The image is generic & is an example of the quality & varieties you will receive.


Stock photos don't cut it for me when dealing with coins.
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I agree with you Center Pin. When buying on ebay I want to see pictures of the exact coin I will be purchasing. This matters even more if it is an error coin.
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Very true, Center Pin and barrie. Any coin that an ebay dealer claims to be "In my opinion the very same grade" may in fact not be so to the experienced viewer. And yes, especially with errors. Some years ago I bought a sweet coin (in person) that really appealed to me. It was a tad expensive ($90), but I had to have it. But just before I laid out my cash the dealer says to me "You like that one? I have one at home even better. I'll bring it in next week." Better? Really? But I just couldn't pass this one up, so I bought it instead. If I didn't, I felt sure someone else would. Next week the dealer did bring his new one it - great condition, but a completely different error. A coin I already had, and for far less money. Yet to him it was the same coin as I had purchased the week before. I learned a good lesson from something I did right for a change, and remember that lesson every time I see a stock photo on ebay.
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