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My New (Old) NCLT Purchase

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I guess this coin belongs in this forum. I recently acquired this gem. It is from the 1970 VIP Specimen set, of which less than 1000 were issued. Probably one of the finest 1970 Specimen 25c I have ever seen. It will find a new home in a more protective hard slab.

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Wow, we don't see those often.

How can you tell the difference between SP and PL for 1970, is it obvious?
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In hand, very much so. Very strong, crisp, full strike with square rims and sharply defined devices. The fields are like blinding mirrors, and most coins, except for the 10-cent for some strange reason, have cameo finishes of varying strength. On a computer screen, darn near impossible. You have to be careful buying sets on ebay, some dishonest people certify the genuine specimen strikes, and then sell the VIP original box with nice proof-like coins in them.

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You have to be careful buying sets on ebay, some dishonest people certify the genuine specimen strikes, and then sell the VIP original box with nice proof-like coins in them.


Thanks for the heads up. I never really bought into SP coins for that reason. Particularly nowadays, I am paranoid about fakes too.
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How can you tell the difference between SP and PL for 1970, is it obvious?

I always wondered that as well.
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In hand, very much so. Very strong, crisp, full strike with square rims and sharply defined devices. On a computer screen, darn near impossible.


Yeah. I was wondering about that.

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That set is on sale by a fellow forum member, poboxw
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Love the listing. Well constructed.

No offence but I would not buy because it's "from a friend".

The most I would offer is PL equivalent + the case. The case itself I would try to sell off empty.
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That set is on sale by a fellow forum member, poboxw


Let me be clear about something. I posted the link because the listing had been ended early, and so only presents a test of SPP's assertion about pics.

I was NOT implying any wrong-doing.



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I wasnt trying to say that anyone was implying anything, just thought it might be interesting to know. I would agree that the listing looks good, I hope he finds a willing buyer.

Hard to list such items online
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I only bought one set raw, it was one of Pittman's sets that I bought back in 2007 at a Torex Auction. I then decided to get those coins certified by ICCS. Afterwards, I acquired Pittman's other 1970 VIP set, the better one, in PCGS holders. It belonged to a collecting friend in the US, who consigned it to a Torex Auction back in 2009.

My 2007 set used to be my avatar on CCRS, I posted a picture of it here along with a couple of coins from my 2009 Pittman purchase.

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Those coins in that ebay listing look like specimen strikes to me, especially the photos on the right side of the listing. In fact, I looked long and hard at that set when it was listed, because it looks like it contained one of the few 10-cent strikes I have seen with a cameo finish on the obverse.

Here is another set that recently sold, at the June CoinExpo auction in Toronto. Not a bad deal, under $600 after hammer and taxes.
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How much ICCS charges for each coin to be certified?
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I am not 100% sure, but I would assume their rates are competitive with CCCS. So around $15.
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I'm the culprit for the ebay listing in question. Recently sold off-line for $630 CAD. Beautiful set I wished I could keep for myself but couldn't justify the asking price my buddy set.

Here are 2 pics of the same coins. Angle and lighting makes a big difference in showing off the SP finish
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What makes these coins so valuable?
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