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Questionable 1877 IHC

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/221053726892?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html%3F_sacat=0&_nkw=221053726892&_rdc=1

I always emphasize never buy this coin raw, especially ebay. Diagnostics could be faked.
Having said that, I don't like the 7's, especially that first one...looks to have been fashioned from a 9.
Thoughts?
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To me the last 7 looks to be the problem, it's larger than the rest of the date. Not a coin I would buy.
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The first 7 is smaller than the second 7. The guy has almost 2000 good feedbacks but even at that I would avoid this coin. It just doesn't feel right.
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There were more red flags too. Specified as an 1891 & I did notice the size of the second 7 as well echizento.
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Looks like a normal 1877 to me. The 7's always look like that. That being said, I will have to crack my 77 out of a slab when I buy it.
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This is a PCGS MS-66 coin, 7's are the same size.


Questionable-1877-IHC

This coin, which is graded PCGS MS-66 Red, is part of the legendary PCGS Registry Set "Red Copper Collection," formed by copper collector Stewart Blay
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Diagnostically, the second 7 should be slightly lower than the first...that looks fine here. I don't like the shape of the first one...hmmm? Might just be the photo too. Nevertheless, my gut would say avoid.

I've seen the above coin before, it's simply insane!
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My first impression is that the coin is good.
The size of the second 7 does appear a bit exaggerated but it seems the lower the grade
the bigger those digits appear. I'm not sure comparing it to a super sharp MS66 is the way to go.
Compare it to something like this:

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Not that I would purchase it without some assurances,
but I think it has a chance of being authentic
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Well the ebay coin does appear to closely match your coin upstate. The ebay coin also is a type 1 with feather pointing between the I C. So it can't be an altered date from 1898 because those would be a type 2 with feather pointing between the C A. It just might be genuine, but I still would not feel good buying it.
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gold eagle that one is awesome!
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Questionable-1877-IHC

See what I mean about the 7's ?
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I could attempt to compare this coin to my Snow guide for 1877, but since Rick Snow is a CCF member now...perhaps he'll drop by to comment?
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Fake or not I just can't see taking a chance with that much money for something on ebay.
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Fake or not I just can't see taking a chance with that much money for something on ebay.


That's the bottom line. This is a good thread though for educational purposes.
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