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US Proof Dollar Commemortives - Bad Investment?

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 Posted 06/24/2012  6:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cinemabon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
While I've been collecting coins for a long time, I started buying US Commemorative dollar coins about three years ago when the price of silver was below twenty dollars an ounce. I assumed that when silver went up, my commemorative coins would increase their value as well. But instead, I've seen very little rise in their value. In some cases, the value has dropped from the price I paid. When I checked a few minutes ago, I noticed commemorative proof coins selling on ebay at or below melt! Wow! Did I make a mistake?
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 Posted 06/24/2012  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's the same case with most of the coins the mint sells now. They charge two or three times the silver value so unless you get lucky with a low mintage issue, it is better to buy them on the after market. Many of the big dealers are now selling both the BU and Proof Commemorative dollars at or slightly above melt value.
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 Posted 06/24/2012  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Short answer...yes. Those are not "investment" items, IMO. The price of silver may one day get you out at a profit though.
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I wouldnt get them just for an investment. Way to new and the mintage is to high. Youd be better off getting rare old coins. But if you did want to do the commems as an investment the only things thats really going to go up will be the perfect 70s
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 Posted 06/24/2012  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
any coin is not really something I would call a good investment. There aren't very many coins that will make money over time unless you got the coin for face value when they circulated and they are made of precious metal. There are a few exceptions on super rare and super high grade coins (in this case I am talking about classics not modern coins) where you can expect to make some money even if you turn around and resell the next day because of their rarity there are usually people waiting in line to purchase such coins at just about any price. Even in these circumstances it would be hard to pay triple the coins is worth (like the mint charges) and then turn around and sell it even a few years later for a profit. That is why you should buy what you like and if the value of those coins go up in value that is fine, if they don't then you still enjoy looking at them. There are many other things that have better returns than coins ever have and if you want to invest I would suggest one of those instead of coins
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 Posted 06/24/2012  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aandabooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been buying them on the secondary market lately and I've been staying in the $30-35 range for singles. I think they are interesting. Only been getting them with all the original packaging and COAs. Same amount of silver as a Morgan/Peace dollars so a few bucks over melt for a proof/unc coin isn't bad, IMO.
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 Posted 06/25/2012  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GRR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mint has gone overboard with commemoratives. Just too many, too many types, etc. They're starting to do it with standard releases too.

If it were a rarity thing, commemoratives would be super expensive as most have low mintages and some have super low mintages.
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I have been buying Australian silver commemoratives since silver went below $33 per oz and I have been getting a large percentage at a dollar or two over spot.
The newer coins are way overpriced and I won't go near them until they die a natural death and I will pick them up in a couple of years.
I have bought nearly a hundred so far and the cost per oz averages out to about $35 per oz which is a fair way over the currant spot price but I am happy with that because I am more interested in collecting the coins than the silver.
With my method of collecting these I will never be up to date with the latest offerings but I can buy what I want/like at a more realistic price.
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I can't see buying the commemoratives directly from the mint. You can usually find the raw coins slightly above melt value. I am not sure there will ever be the same collectibility of these as they never circulated like the classics. However they are beautiful and I like them more and more every time I look at them.
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Did I make a mistake?


If you're primary reason for buying the coins was to make a quick, sizeable profit, then "Yes" you probably did make a mistake.

But, if you were buying them because you enjoy US history and enjoy a well-crafted coin that reminds you of what has come before then you likely made some of the best purchases that you ever will!

I've been collecting the series for over 20 years and still look forward to every new release. I also still enjoy going through my collection and examining each of the coins. I collect the uncirculated coins rather than the proofs, but can certainly appreciate the aesthetics of the proofs.

So, my advice, appreciate the coins for their artistic merits and the history they represent rather than their potential return-on-investment. You'll enjoy your collection much more!



Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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My principle reason for buying the modern commemorative silver dollar coins (post 1982) was to give my son a sound inflation proof investment for the future. I assumed that their value would continue to increase; and it did, for awhile. Now, however, with silver plunging back down into the $26 dollar/oz range, some commemoratives are selling in the low $20's which surprised me. The Lincoln silver commemorative that only two years ago had jumped up to nearly $80 has dropped to less than half that amount (not slabbed). Even the proof coins versus the uncirculated have fallen below the price the mint sold them for in many cases (93 Madison and others), disappointing.
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Cinemabon the problem is unslabbed ones, even slabbed ones that are prefect are just way to easy to get so they really dont command any premiums. For the unslabbed at least even the ones from the 80s are pretty easy to come by raw. Some of the older 70s however have seen huge increases and are rather hard to find.
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