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Finally Managed To Noodle An Incused!!

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 Posted 07/06/2012  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
penny dreadful, well done!
life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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 Posted 07/07/2012  02:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are a couple of good videos on pad printing to be found on You Tube.
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 Posted 07/07/2012  04:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had a squizz on YouTube Sel, Very interesting and high tech.
I am still no closer to solving the mystery about the existence of the incused millennium coin but
Someone in the mint knows but they ain't telling us nothing
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 Posted 07/07/2012  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
trout1105: It seems that the pad printing technique works best on flat surfaces, or at least a surface with no sharp changes in the surface.

Which leaves me in the same mystery as yourself, as to why an incuse die variation would have been produced in the first place.

I am glad they did! It gives us curious numistmatists something to look out for!
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 Posted 07/07/2012  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JamieSpat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good job. Congratulations! I'm still looking!
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 Posted 07/08/2012  02:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the die engraver had a big friday night and was working early saturday morning overtime?
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Maybe the die engraver had a big friday night and was working early saturday morning overtime?

i am certain that this was not a "mistake " by the engraver.
It is a totally different design, not only on the union jack but the stars are different as well.
Unless one of the engravers took in on themselves to do this , it must have been commissioned and there should be a record of it somewhere at the mint.
If there is such a record then it will give us an answer as to why the coin was minted and a rough estimate of the number of coins produced.
Thinking about this is doing my head in
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 Posted 07/08/2012  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe a very big friday night?

I agree it is too big of a difference to simply be a mistake by the engraver. There must be someting else behind it for sure.
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 Posted 07/19/2012  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if the incuse is a leftover proof die or trial die
I'm still waiting for my 2000 proof set to arrive so that I can have a close look at the 50 cent coino
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Proof 50c has an entirely flat flag underneath, as they only like to pad printing on a flat surface.

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Oh and the proof flag has a large gap between the rim at each end of the flag, normal mint and circulation strikes have a flag that spreads the length of the coin.
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 Posted 07/19/2012  02:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Proof 50c has an entirely flat flag underneath, as they only like to pad printing on a flat surface

Thanks AC, Great info
Bugger now I'm even more confused as to how the incused coin came about
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It cant be a proof die. As AC has pointed out the flag is flat. It could possibly be a trial pattern that wasnt chosen but my money is on human error. A big error at that.
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I read somewhere that the incused was the die for the mint sets, but got mixed up and put into circulation production.
And that does sound like the most logical reason why there was only one die made.
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 Posted 07/19/2012  03:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you think the mint set coin would have been deliberately different to the circulation coin?

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