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20 Cents 2008 Missing Foot

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 Posted 07/15/2012  11:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add penny dreadful to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this a legit mint error? 2008 20c with paw missing.

Saw one on ebay, ended last night, got over $20
Same seller sold one for $8.30 a few days earlier, and one for $32 in mid June...and another on May 27th. Where are they all coming from?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Australia-2...t_500wt_1182

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 Posted 07/16/2012  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely legit. I have a couple somewhere, looked for them last week when I saw that one on ebay, but still haven't found them. I sort of remember that mine might have had a tiny bit of the foot still visible, but most of it was missing. Obviously die fill, but still interesting.

Not worth $20 each though, maybe $4 - $5.

If mine ever show up, I'll get some images and post them.
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 Posted 07/16/2012  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see any obvious tampering, but neither can I work out how that part of the die might fill, but the waterline seems intact ...

I'll have to start looking more closely at platypi -
Nancy, can you recall if this occurs in any other years ?
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 Posted 07/16/2012  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ripped from ebay 5 min's ago

Australian 2008 20 cent error / variety Mostly missing right claw - Very Rare - Similarish to a 1981 31/2 claw Canadian mint Ozzie 20c but far more of the foot is missing from the design. A spectaculat and rare variety harder to find than the Millenium Incuse 50 cent which fetches good money already.. A great chance to get this exciting coin before it is listed in the Greg McDonald catalogue. This is by far the hardest of the recent 20 cent varieties to find and much, much more difficult to find than the 1981 3/12 which catalogues at $170 in Unc.


so you've been holding out on me again nancyc

2008..isn't it a bit early to call something like that considering some of us are just finding out about it so will now be on the hunt see how many are found/around in a few years as there could be thousands..especially when some members crack open bags they've had sealed for years..food for thought
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 Posted 07/16/2012  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They do occur in other years, but nowhere near the extent of the 2008 type. I have several coins from different years stashed somewhere, but I just can't remember where I put them. I have a vague idea that they might all be post 1999, but don't quote me on that.

I can't remember where I put anything these days, and it's usually only by accident that I find anything. My biggest problem is I have way too many coins to keep track of, so I keep track of none.

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 Posted 07/16/2012  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add penny dreadful to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the ebay seller's call on it being the rarest 20c variety is a bit rich - considering how many they've sold over the last couple months

Reckon these will show up more, once we all start looking out for them - not much gets past a bunch of CCF noodlers hot on the case...
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 Posted 07/16/2012  01:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Coin Hunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think Ozcoins would have something to say about it being the rarest 20 cent variety as well given his big 66 wavy find
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 Posted 07/16/2012  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i posted a pic of one here on the forum somewhere about a month or so ago,right claw completely missing above the wave.
i'll see if I can find the thread.

Here he is the little one clawed badger I mean ornithorhynchus.
My coin also has doubling on the obverse legends & Cuds on the ZA in ELIZABETH.

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OK, I found them. I have 5 x 2008, and most of the foot above the wave is missing, with just 3 tiny remnants visible, and parts of the foot below the wave are also missing. 3 of the 5 also have doubling on the Obv involving the 08 of the date and ZAB of Elizabeth.

I actually think that this is most likely another case of a very worn die causing the problems on both sides of the coin, so die fill might not be the correct terminology for it.

I also have 1994, 96, 99, 01,02,05,07, 09 with much smaller bits of the claw missing.

I'm working on the images now and hopefully I'll have them posted some time tomorrow.

This is your thread Apple...
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...IC_ID=119834

Almost identical to my 5 coins.

Hahahah! Apple beat me to it!
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 Posted 07/16/2012  02:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool Nancy,Yeah I don't believe that these are as rare as the sellers is making them out to be as at the time I posted mine Nancy had 5 & Goatieman had a few too,now that more people are aware of the variety/error there will be a lot more turn up I reckon.
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 Posted 07/16/2012  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no, too many coins nancyc

nancyc Posted - Today :8 Min ago
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I actually think that this is most likely another case of a very worn die causing the problems on both sides of the coin, so die fill might not be the correct terminology for it.

I also have 1994, 96, 99, 01,02,05,07, 09 with much smaller bits of the claw missing.

sorry nancyc but I think it's slackers not doing their job and by all those dates he/she's been slacking for a while 'cause by rights we shouldn't get error coins if the job was being done but you have to love when they make that big of a mistake they make a hole run so they don't become a super rare coin or is it a disgruntled employee that has a little revenge now and then not that I'm complaining as if they didn't we wouldn't be talking about them and always on the hunt
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 Posted 07/16/2012  03:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This seller has transgressed sin number 2. http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...IC_ID=124111
Now, what should the punishment be?

Do we have at least two members silly enough to start bidding hundreds, thousands, millions of dollars? That would be fun But, possible ebay might take a dim view (although they seem to nearly always ignore reports of problem sellers.

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 Posted 07/16/2012  05:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keldaw2222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how can you all say "right foot " to my eyes it is the left foot with the error ?

,, kel ,,
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 Posted 07/16/2012  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course it is the left foot with the missing bits. Maybe we should be saying the foot on the right.
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 Posted 07/16/2012  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Question:
Is this a Grease Filled Die error, or a die variety?
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My opinion is that it's the result of a die that was wearing out and may have been used for too long.

My initial feeling was die fill, but have changed my mind now. I doubt that it's a die variety, not considering the missing bits on the reverse occurring with extra metal (doubling?) on the obverse.
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