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1980 50c Greaser Or PMD?

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I found this 50c today. It is in poor condition and I can't work out if it is PMD or a " Greaser". I tried to get good photos but these are the best I could manage so it may not be easy to determine what the cause of the missing details is. Anyway hoping someone out there can help out.
I have weighed the coin (on my cheap scales) and it is 15.6g. The "AUST" in "Australia" is still visible which suggests to me that the missing details have not been scrapped off. I am interested to hear your thoughts, thank you.
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 Posted 01/12/2025  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a rough one. I'm thinking post-strike damage, given the appearance of the rim in the 'anomalous' area.
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It appears that there is corresponding lack of details on the obverse and reverse, so I think that your coin was smashed.
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Looks like a train ran over it.
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Thank you for your ideas. I will put it down as "smashed" PMD. I can't see any rubbing or scrapping marks in that area and the rim is very slightly thinner there too. Other than the "AUST" there is no other detail from the designs visible. Must have been a pretty solid impact I guess? Cheers.
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 Posted 01/12/2025  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking PMD as well.
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Yep, I think PMD. I wonder what sort of impact caused it? If it was a " Greaser" it would have been a pretty good looking error when newly minted and no doubt snapped up into a collection fairly quickly. The coin has had a hard life but I will add it to my odds and sods as an example of unusual PMD. Thanks again for your interest and replies.
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Acid maybe? Is the surface porous where the damage is?
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The surface on both sides where the damage has occurred is relatively smooth. The surface on the obverse is also slightly concave with the edge of the coin being slightly thinner adjacent to the "AUST". The other damage evident in the attached picture (small nicks) is all over the coin and would be unrelated.

Perhaps the missing details have been 'polished' off by something? It just seems odd to me that if that was the case and enough metal has been removed so that the coin is thinner at that point, then why didn't the "AUST" get completely removed too? The coin is not distorted in any other way and weighs 15.6g. Just an oddity I guess?
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Yeah if the AUST is still there then maybe it it's a planchet flaw?
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