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I may have missed this discussion elsewhere. I was curious... I have the first 10 coins in the set but wonder if the series is worth continuing? Anyone planning on owning them all and think there will be value in a "complete set" that would be worth the effort?
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 Posted 07/17/2012  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think youre talking about the 5oz ones correct?

There is a thread on them where the discussions turns to them in the EL Yunque one.

My personal feeling is I love them, but theyve been very mismanaged by the Mint and the P series will eventually be killed with the miserable sales. I've stopped collecting them because of this and the super high premium on them right now. If the mint where to set a bottom price they will never go below and say that the P series will continue in some form through the set I would start again
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 Posted 07/17/2012  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M Anden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you @basebal21, I agree with the poor management prospective. I'm glad I was able to get my hands on the first 10 but I think I'm done. I may track down one or two based on likes etc. but I think that's it. Thanks again!
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The first 5 seem to be the most desirable by far. The others dont seem to be very hard to come by unless youre looking for graded 70 ones. But I'm with you as long as they are managed this way I will be tracking them down on the after market as I see fit
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i purchased 10 of them as well and I dont think I'm going to continue either - they are easy to obtain (except for the 2010 series ) and the price just isn't worth it, they are beauties though but I wish they would drop the whole quarter design
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 Posted 07/17/2012  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like if you're patient, you can get the P pucks for slightly under the issue price on ebay. Saw one or two go for around 180.

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Celtic just noticed that too. Even the Ps seem to be vulnerable to silver changes raw. Might even drop more as they become more unpopular
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What this series needs is time. The 2010 pucks have a slight premium because they are sold out at the Mint. Once the 2011/2012s are off sale, these will likely see a bump in secondary market prices, 25,000/35,000 isn't really that many coins in the larger scheme of things. Somebody is buying these that aren't on any of the blogs or websites devoted to modern coins. I wouldn't be surprised if the great majority of the puck sales are to third party dealers who are holding them for 10 years or more to make up full sets down the road. Somebody like MCM might have 5,000 or more of each design and can hold them for a long time with their deep pockets. Gotta remember the coins of yesteryear were usually hated by the general public for one reason or another, and are winners today. The modern "junk" of today will be someone's loved coin series in 20, 30, 50 years from now. My point is history ALWAYS repeats itself in numismatics.
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Bizy thats true, but 20 30 and especially 50 years from now does nothing for us. Really a lot of things gain value as antiques if you hold onto them long enough.

The mintages are high at all, but with how theyre being sold and handled no one really wants them anymore even those of us that love them. The mint really has done their best to drive people away from them
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You have to be comfortable with collecting what you like and what you can comfortably afford. I am not saying you can't afford a $200 coin, I am saying you can't afford that $200 coin if it drops to $40 eventually (assuming that the bottom falls out of the Ag market and the spot falls to $5.) That's the risk with any tradable commodity, that the market for it may suddenly collapse. I have been buying silver for 20 years now, little bit here and there, I'm not like Ed that can buy 100+ oz. at a time. All the gold that I own I traded cheap Ag when Ag was rising and the ratio was less than 40:1. I hoard silver for not investment purposes, but for the possibility that our fiat money might someday collapse, and I might have use silver to barter for basic survival. It all comes down to that, survival, and that the collapse of the greenback may become a reality within my lifetime.
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Bizy I definitely agree with all of that. Which would be my other issue with the puck. Aside from the fact the bottom could fall out of the coin (I dont expect to make money on every purchase but like you said I dont want to pay 200 for something thats worth 30 in the not to near future) but for the collapse backup plan the pucks arent that great of an option. Its just to much in once piece that becomes harder to trade as opposed to ASEs or silver quarters ect. I think the quarters halves and dollars are the best way to go for that personally and just dont see the practical aspect of the large silver bars unless someone can melt them themselves so for me these are a miss in that aspect too.
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