Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsSpecializing in Modern Numismatics 300,000 items to help build your collection! Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Help With Some Greek Un Cleaned Coins

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 38 / Views: 4,020Next Topic
Page: of 3
Pillar of the Community
Ben's Avatar
United Kingdom
4208 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  6:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ordered 10 uncleaned coins - They finally got here!

Great seller - he sent me 11, and even sent me a little request I put in - a 3/4 facing bust and a sitting Roma!

Anyway, pictures before are below. If you see anything interesting, please chirp up - after a quick rinse off a lot more detail is already showing.

In the picture is also a coin with a bust on each side, so that was a pleasant suprise if someone wants to fill me in on any signicance of such a thing.

Help-With-Some-Greek-Un-Cleaned-Coins

Help-With-Some-Greek-Un-Cleaned-Coins

Ill update as I clean and identify - and I will identify each one eventually
Valued Member
Nothus's Avatar
United States
209 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nothus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, nice coins and it was really cool of the seller to take the time to find what you asked for.
Pillar of the Community
Ben's Avatar
United Kingdom
4208 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got a couple with red sand caked on - Well, that or rust, which I hope it isn't.

Im going to clean it off anyway, but I hear its a particularly cherished one thing.
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like you got some nice coins that will clean up well. The third one looks like Theodosius forward facing bust usually the obverse detail is worn on this type. But yours looks like it will have good detail once it's cleaned.
Pillar of the Community
Bing's Avatar
United States
4253 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least it doesn't look like you have any culls in the lot, and, in fact, it looks like each should be arrtibutable. Might I ask how much you paid for the lot and from where did you make the purchase? As I have said on numerous threads, I have stopped buying uncleaned lots because of all the culls and because when figured in for the culls, the cost of each coin was not worth it. I will be watching to see how you progress on these. Congrats.
Pillar of the Community
enworb's Avatar
Australia
4411 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you care to let us know who the seller was and the cost. I'm thinking of getting a few myself.
Pillar of the Community
Masis's Avatar
United Kingdom
946 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After mentioning on two other threads how one seller on ebay seems to sell "uncleaned" coins with all his coins, from different eras, caked in the same coloured mud, I am wondering about the "uncleaned" state of the coins, with the same kind of dirt on them.
Cleaning will be easy, and in some cases not necessary.
As long as you did not pay "too much", the coins look to be in good condition, most important of all.
Pillar of the Community
Ben's Avatar
United Kingdom
4208 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dirt isn't coming off in the same way as the last coin I cleaned up - However, these are different shapes, all appear to be the same era and all different colours.

Anyway, I bought them from Chimera Antiques on ebay - search cAc Uncleaned Coins and you'll see em- you can choose how many you want from a drop down menu, I got 10 for 12.44 and received 11. Its labelled 'No Junks' and its pretty much right - Well, I dont consider any as junks, and a quick picking has shown that a lot of detail has survived under the dirt.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1549 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you IDed the one to the right of the facing bust? It is different.
Pillar of the Community
bobbyhelmet's Avatar
United Kingdom
2838 Posts
 Posted 07/22/2012  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree - the 'double headed' coin could well turn out to be interesting.
Pillar of the Community
chrsmat71's Avatar
United States
4964 Posts
 Posted 07/23/2012  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
those look promising, please keep us posted!
Pillar of the Community
Ben's Avatar
United Kingdom
4208 Posts
 Posted 07/23/2012  04:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im attacking the one with the two busts now - I thought it had very little surviving on it, but I'm managed to get through to the actual patina and I went through a lot of dirt, so with any luck, more letters are under there.

Also, one of the coins doesn't look like a Roman drawn bust, ill post some pictures below. The lettering that survives also looks very crummy, is this one of those 'barberous imitations' I've heard so much about, or is it outright fake?

Help-With-Some-Greek-Un-Cleaned-Coins
Help-With-Some-Greek-Un-Cleaned-Coins
Pillar of the Community
bobbyhelmet's Avatar
United Kingdom
2838 Posts
 Posted 07/23/2012  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its not a fake, it could be barbarous but is most likely a late Roman coin. Try looking at the coins and Emperors of the 5th century.
Pillar of the Community
TJsCoins's Avatar
United States
3229 Posts
 Posted 07/23/2012  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin lot! Congrats and have fun! Try to leave a little of that dirt in place. Sometimes it is the dirt that leaves the coins detail intact:)

Below is one of my cleaned uncleaned coins that IMHO turned out ok. What I could have done better was to stop cleaning sooner. If you look at the reverse of this Horonius you can see that heads of the emperors and the mint mark are not very clear. Those areas had more detail just before I "cleaned" them up. I know we use the term "cleaning" a lot, but I try to remember that our "cleaning" of these ancient artifacts is "conservation". The dirt we are cleaning off is often the very thing that has conserved it. Why not let some of that dirt keep its job?

Help-With-Some-Greek-Un-Cleaned-Coins
Help-With-Some-Greek-Un-Cleaned-Coins
Pillar of the Community
Bing's Avatar
United States
4253 Posts
 Posted 07/23/2012  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
one of the coins doesn't look like a Roman drawn bust


I think it looks CeltIberian, but can't be sure.
Pillar of the Community
Ben's Avatar
United Kingdom
4208 Posts
 Posted 07/23/2012  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TJS - Its good advice, but I want to see a clean coin - I am yet to find a coin in which detail is preserved in the dirt (unless I squint really hard at it for a while). Besides, the detail coming out by far outweighs anything lost.

Plus, if theres anything under the dirt, the last person to see it was a real Roman, which is quite satisfying in itself.

Update: One coin which had a reverse that looked unsalvagable has turned into a good coin with little effort - a hard black coating hid the detail, and from what looked like a soldier with standard has come a coin of the Emperor dragging a captive. It also sparkles, should I continue cleaning to try and get the detail to come out, or leave it in its sparkling form?
Edited by Ben
07/23/2012 4:40 pm
  Previous TopicReplies: 38 / Views: 4,020Next Topic
Page: of 3

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.39 seconds to rattle this change. Forums