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1970 Proof Set, Toning, Mold, Verdigris Or ?

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 Posted 07/25/2012  3:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add joeturbo26 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone! Question:

I just received my 1970 proof set. The half dollar has this odd rust/toning.. I don't know what it is kinda pattern going on. The Nickel is cloudy, and the reverse of the penny looks like it is fuzzy..

Maybe it is a illusion from the scratched plastic? But, aren't these sealed? How does this happen, and what is going on?




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 Posted 07/25/2012  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The older US proof sets were not air-tight, so that might explain something...
Can't really tell w/out pics.
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 Posted 07/25/2012  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeturbo26 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There ya go! Pics now uploaded
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is that a small date?
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Yes
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 Posted 07/25/2012  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Weezer1878 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We discussed this on another thread. They used materials inside the holder that are not inert and can tone the coins. You might be better off breaking them out and putting them in airtites or something similar to avoid further toning/haze.
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I was actually planning on breaking them out regardless, as I just purchased the set for the penny. The others don't concern me at all. It's the reverse of the penny with that fuzziness that I'm curious about. I don't want to break it, unless someone can tell me what the deal is there first - as I bought it from ebay and I was going to see what the seller thinks. If the general consensus here is positive I of course will go with the community's opinion.
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 Posted 07/25/2012  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm...
That second last picture(w/penny) looks almost like they are striations. Don't know what they would be from unless someone tried to clean them or something...?
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I'm going to photograph just the penny in a few! It actually appears to be in excellent condition with the exception of that pennecilin growing on the reverse lol.
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 Posted 07/25/2012  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeturbo26 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, this was a hard task to complete LOL. Trying to photograph a coin under the scratched 40 year old plastic, let alone a proof!

The single picture of the obverse, honestly makes the coin look terrible, I can tell that under the plastic, it is in much better shape than it appears.

I want to badly to crack it open, but if you guys think I should return it, I of course won't crack it open.

Take a look at the reverse, what do you suspect that to be? What is your overall feeling and thoughts on this?



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One vote for large date
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 Posted 07/25/2012  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeturbo26 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Upstate please.... LOL hold on I'll post a better date photo. I'm not trying to go down this road tonight
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Hey Joe, "where ya goin with that gun in your hand?" (sorry for the Jimi Hendrix reprise) anyhow, how do the coins match up with the photos on E-bay from the seller? Was it possible to see the coins that well? I ask because I have heard of horror stories of bait and switch on there. As for the 1970-S I have a hard time seeing if it is from the plastic or the coin but you having it in hand tells all. I was thinking maybe that Verdi-Care might take care of it but being a proof I dunno . I have never used the stuff myself just have heard a lot of good things.Hit up BadTHad see what he says. Odd that the fuzz is white though..
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thanks PT! the coin matches up, but then again, when I was buying a SD on ebay, I was more fixated on the date... looking back at them now, the pictures are exact, but certainly not close enough to see what I have pointed out. I don't feel its a bait and switch at all, I am happy that I at least got the SD, but I just don't know if what I am seeing on the coin will flake right off with some air, or its something else...

I've heard verdicare isn't meant for proofs.
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Well if you are Happy with the coins I would take it out, and give it a gentile very gentile wipe with some thing very very very (you get the idea) soft. Good luck Sir ! Gotcha on the Verdi_Care !
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