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Does Anyone Know What This Gold? British Old Coin Is?

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 Posted 07/30/2012  11:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AdamK to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone,

I'm new to this forum and coin collecting in general, I come across this old coin which I believe to British but I'm unsure. It looks like it could be Gold, the rim is gold, where it has the hole that's gold and it looks gold underneath all the dirt, but I was unsure if I should clean it or not? Anyhelp would be appreciated :)

Thanks.

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Adam

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 Posted 07/30/2012  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gold doesn't tarnish IIRC (and while it could be dirt, that'll be quite a lot of it).
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 Posted 07/30/2012  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AdamK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there,

I've just been told that by a coin dealer I contacted, I was told it may be 16 century, possibly silver gilt.

I've added some more pictures. Thank you, any help would be appreicated, it was found with other old coins metal detecting, the oldest coin found that has a readable date is 1775, even they others look older.

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 Posted 07/30/2012  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like a spade guinea token. Reproductions of a spade guinea were made in brass and used for publicity, like this sainsbury token.

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 Posted 07/30/2012  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm afraid that you'll probably have something like this:

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It's a brass copy of a Spade guinea, used as a card counter around 100 years ago.
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 Posted 07/30/2012  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and welcome.

As others have stated, it's a brass replica of a spade guinea. Most, like the one alganbagerap posted, were made in the early 1800s and used as gambling tokens for card games.
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 Posted 08/14/2012  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. Brass replica with severe oxidation issues.

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 Posted 08/21/2012  05:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalgado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For any collector of this series the work of reference for the whole series is essential. It is "A Thousand Guineas" by W. Bryce Neilson, published in 2003 and covering 70 pages. Published by Galata Print.
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 Posted 08/21/2012  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tmaring to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good sleuthing! Undoubtedly correct. Severe oxidation issues indeed!
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