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Is This A 1788 Vermont Coin .. Poor Shape

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 Posted 08/04/2012  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One link I just read, if I read it right, stated that the the image's on the Vermont coin are similar to a British halfpenny, that was being circulated at the time .. but who the images are, on the Vermont, is not known.

On that British Halfpenny it does say George III .. this is a different coin
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 Posted 08/06/2012  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How long is does the ANA show go on.

I was hoping vermontesium would post a opinion
on this coin.
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Actually starts Tuesday and goes through Saturday. There may have been some local pre-show events, like a Heritage auction this past weekend.
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Philadelphian - thanks for the information .. I am thinking he will say
the same things you all posted .... I am just curious what Vermontesium will say
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The bust on the Vermont does not represent a specific person, it is just similar to the bust of King George from the British half penny to keep the coin looking familiar to the populace. Coins with designs that were unfamiliar were often viewed with suspicion and either refused or taken at a discount. The original Vermont coppers had a completely different appearance but they quickly switched to the familiar bust and seated figure designs used on the British coins.
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i always assumed it was king george like they didnt care to replace the design (although on some of the 1788 varities I do believe george was named on the coin)as in older dates as well
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I really appreciate the good responses I am getting on this coin, I am learning a lot from the post and the
reading I have been doing.

I am hoping all feel this is a authentic coin, because I did purchase it today. I do wonder why they are called Vermont coppers, to me it does not quite have the copper look of .. say a bust large cent.

I have a few coins I am thinking to send in to be slabbed,
what are some thoughts on that ..
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I had the same feeling when I acquired a fugio after having a number of large cents. Maybe the techniques or the impurities were different in the pre-Mint period, but 100% copper is 100% copper.
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i always assumed it was king george like they didnt care to replace the design (although on some of the 1788 varities I do believe george was named on the coin)as in older dates as well

Something to remember is that the people coining the Vermont's, Connecticut's etc were also actively coining counterfeit British halfpence. The people installing the dies and doing the striking would quite possibly often be illiterate and since both types of die were similar it is not too surprising that from time to time British halfpence dies and state copper dies would get muled together.
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I see vermontesium made a couple post .. hoping to bump this up and see if he might post a opinion
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I concur, Ryder-29. I have only handled a couple of these, all of which are quite elusive, and lacking detail.
Your coin appears cleaned, but not harshly. This was the only use of the obverse die, and had little life left at that.
Rare? Yes. Not sure of exact population but, I can assure you, it's low.
I would put your coin in the VG Details category for the cleaning.
I would personally send this coin to PCGS.
I will investigate further, and get back to you shortly.
I want one
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vermontensium thank you for taking the time from the ANA show to reply to my post.

I very much appreciate your informative opinion. I look forward to any other information you come up with.

I am also honored that you used your 10,000th post
on my post.

Congratulation on making it to 10,000 that is quite an achievement.
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