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1883 O Morgan

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 Posted 03/05/2007  7:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tbar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I could use a little help here from the Morgan crowd.

I bought this coin at the pawn shop at spot. My question is....what do you think it grades and should I dip this coin? I know either way I am fine paying spot for it.

I think the pics are a pretty good representation of the coin in hand. I don't see wear on this coin....but I would be easily fooled by a slider in this series.

1883-O-Morgan

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 Posted 03/05/2007  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would leave it as it is...I kind of dig, what some may consider, ugly toning. I would definitely call this a slider from the pics...hard to tell with toning and not having coin in hand...no distracting gouges or rim bumps...at spot, I would say that you got a pretty good deal. Is there wear on the breast feathers?
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 Posted 03/05/2007  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like lots of luster left under toning/reverse...I would hate to be the one to dip it first.
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 Posted 03/05/2007  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tbar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see no sign of wear on the breast feathers. Slight lack of detail on hair above ear but doesn't really seem like rub, strike maybe?....cheek looks clean in hand.

Actually the more I look at this coin the more I like it. The toning is ugly though.
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 Posted 03/05/2007  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tbar, I see your quandary. You can go either way on this. First, it's not a high value Morgan even in Mint State, so you would lose little, if anything if you dipped it. But second, on the other hand, it's still a Morgan and appears to be uncirculated albeit New Orleans Mint's tendency for weak strikes. They aren't making Morgans anymore and if you dip it, it's done for in the collector trade. My own feeling is to leave it alone, use it as an educational tool. You can find a better 83-O at very low cost for your Morgan collection.

[Editorial: Why do so many O-Morgans end up in this Coin Grading Practice forum anyway? They're easily the hardest Morgans to grade from images and are the root cause of many battles here. Ask Metalman about his 1888-O... ]

I believe it to be uncirculated as mentioned earlier and as I gather you suspect. Even though it's a typical New Orleans weak strike with lack of detail in Liberty's hairline over her ear, but with relatively sharp feather detail on the Eagle's breast, there are just no signs of even light circulation that I can detect from the images. No circulation-type rim dings, generally clear fields, and only a few of what appear to be bag marks (not circulation marks) on Liberty's cheek. As it is now and presuming the toning is not caused by "environmental damage" (a favorite reason for bodybagging Morgans by the top TPGs since it is so nebulous), it might slab at MS-62 or -63.

In sum, don't dip it.

Ah, it's good to be back to grading Morgans, even if it's only for a short time.

Fred

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 Posted 03/05/2007  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tbar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks alot Fred.

I have been concentrating on Peace dollars and know little to nothing of Morgans. Now that you have helped assure me that I am looking at strike weakness and not a slider I feel very confident that this coin is at least MS 63. If it were a Peace I would have no problem calling it a 64.

I don't even collect Morgans but I knew I couldn't lose at $13.

Thanks again for the help.
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 Posted 03/05/2007  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the pics, I'll go ms63.
Dip it? Why? It has that original, thick-skinned look that would be lost forever with a dipping.
The really neat thing with coins like this one is the more you look at them, the more they have to show you. I like it!
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03/05/2007 10:12 pm
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