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Alright, I admit right now that my grading skills are focused primarily on nickels (because I like 'em) and now have to learn to grade on sumptun a bit softer, sigh... Can I get an MS-62 out of this?    |
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I am not knowledgeable on Canadian coinage, but it sure looks nice to me!  Edited by oih82w8
08/09/2012 08:45 am
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To answer your question, yes, you should get at least MS62BN. Depending on what TPG you send it to, you may not get a higher grade because of the colour. I'd like to hear what others have to say. I think PCGS would go MS64BN (if in fact it is a 64) But I don't think ICCS would give it a 64 simply because it is mainly brown. ? |
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ICCS does punish toning, sometimes unfairly. It is tough to determine a grade with oblique angle photographs - that is how ebay folks list and sell their coins to make them appear "nicer"... Can you take a photo with the camera lens roughly parallel to the surface of the coin? "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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@SPP-Ottawa Actually yes I can! I just remebered those coin holders that came in recently I'll try it with one. S
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I would say 63 brown at PCGS. The hits on her neck keep it from higher. I have seen PCGS go up to 67 brown on the right coin.
Either 62 or 63 lustrous brown at ICCS. ICCS will not go over 63 on a brown coin.
Nice coin.
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@bosox ICCS will likely get the coin, I'd rather not deal with customs and all that jazz. A higher grade from an American company is not what I need, rather a consensus on grade, and a "sealed" plastic flip to keep it from the elements.  Kudos guys for your opinions, I appreciate it. |
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Rarely, ICCS will grade a coin MS-64 Lustrous Brown. I have seen it with small George V cents and NFLD large cents. For your coin, I agree with bosox on MS-63 brown grade.
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@SPP-Ottwaw Does PCGS have a "Lusterous Brown" designation? Sounds like an oxymoron. Would the "9 over 9" designation be put on the card from ICCS or would I have to pay for them to put that on the card?
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PCGS - no, it would be called Brown
ICCS - yes, if it was obvious enough, and you asked them to do it. Sometime there is no charge, sometime they charge $2
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Okay, I'll have to be a little more precise when I speak to them, and ask them a few questions. Thanks SPP and bosox.
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I agree that once in a blue moon they have put one in a 64 brown holder. More often, you will find ICCS coins graded MS-60 to 63 brown that are undergraded. I bought this small bud in an old embossed ICCS holder graded MS-60 brown. It is now, IMO, correctly graded MS-63 brown in a PCGS holder. The pictures, unfortunately are through the two layers of ICCS plastic.   http://www.victoriancent.com2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA.
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