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Dei Gratia Carolus IIIi 1801 Hispan Et Ind Rex 8R Fm

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Can someone help me to verify it?

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8-reale, silver Piece of Eight, Mexico Spanish. AEF
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Welcome pkt1899,

I would add an information to the previously posted information : and fake.
This coins is not genuine - according to its design (edge, king's portrait, overall design)
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 Posted 08/13/2012  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, sorry, this one is 100% fake.
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... and a modern fake ... not a contemporary counterfeit of the period (i.e. late 18thC/early 19thC). Probably magnetic? ... check it with a magnet ... most are Fe/Ni base alloys which is diagnostic for most China fakes. Sometimes they elevate to german silver (Cu/Zn/Ni) but with edges being plain or reeded.
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Good eye guys, I browsed it real quick before going to bed last night. Now that I check again with fresh eyes I can see it's a fake also.

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hi all, I've tested it with magnet, it's not magnetic. can anyone send me a link for the real coin? thanks a lot!
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Hope this site gives you the info you need.
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here is an 1801 Mo FT/M (over assayer variety)

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Even if not magnetic it could be german silver (Cu/Zn/Ni) or the iron is low enough not to be attracted to a magnet. Usually less than 40% of the alloy such as (Fe/Ni/Cu). I have also seen Brass (Cu/Zn) with traces of silver making a a coin look silver. Its unquestionably MODERN. Also what does the edge look like? Plain, reeded or something else?
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Got this from my old uncle. Can somebody help to verify if this is fake or real?



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The other side of it:

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Looks like a cast fake to me.
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Fake : improper design, details not sharp, cast 'style', improper metal :)
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Fake. Probably an older cast (50 years old or older?). Not a recent chinese die transfer cast process ... circle/sqaured edge? ... just curious on its execution ...
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Can someone help me to verify it?

Thanks.

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