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1829 LC On Ebay- Counterfeit?

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 Posted 08/14/2012  4:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Doesn't look right or match attribs for any variety. Second opinion?

http://cgi.ebay.com/300762788146
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 Posted 08/15/2012  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no experience with these, so I used an image from Google as a guide, and here are my thoughts:

AT BEST, this is a "reasonable approximation" fake. The date should be centred, but isn't; the shape of the nose and mouth are wrong, and it looks like someone applied fake damage to attempt to hide this; the raised, reeded portion of the obverse (don't know what that's actually called, sorry) appears too large; the wear across the face appears too even and smooth to be natural, given the wear across the rest of the coin; the stars are mushy and sloppy, not well-defined like the real coin I'm working from.

That's the obverse. Then I pulled up the reverse pic: This looks better, but that edging still looks funny and perhaps more importantly, the wreath is, no-holds-barred, WRONG. Take a look at the left-hand side of this wreath and you'll see a place where there are two berries. Look to their left and see another one (you'll have to look the image up on Google, I'm afraid--CCF keeps giving me a Not Allowed error when I link). The leaf on the ebay coin is too small (look how far the one on your selected image extends), but there's still no room for that single berry. This is a personal quibble, but it also seems to me that if the rest of the coin is so dirty, the raised areas shouldn't be so nice and neat.

My verdict: fake.

(okay, large cent collectors, how'd I do?)

ETA: The website I used apparently can't be mentioned on CCF, so I found another picture of the matron head from another site. My point stands and I still stand by what I said the first time.
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08/15/2012 06:01 am
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 Posted 08/15/2012  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Real N.2 VG flat appearence.

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 Posted 08/15/2012  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree the shape of the nose and moth look funny to say the least.
And comparing the date to large cents in my hoard, well it looks to be in the wrong place.
But I dont know enough about all the variations to call the coin fake.
I will check back and see what the verdict is.
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The angle of the photo distorts the look of the coin. I don't see anything on this one that screams fake, just an old beat up 1829.
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Looks fine to me, 1829 N-2 R-2
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 Posted 08/15/2012  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, IGE, that's it. The tilt make the spacing of the upper stars look wrong.
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