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Valued Member
Croatia (Locally: Hrvatska)
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I stumbled on this bill in the lot in which I took from a local retailer. How would you grade the bill and what would be the value in this condition. Thank you.  
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Valued Member
United States
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WOW, That's bad, but if you don't have one it's better than nothing. I don't think most adult collectors would want to put something that bad in their collection.
When I find notes like that I usually give them to a kid thinking that maybe it will get them started in currency collecting.
Value ?, well it can still be spent as a dollar, and being it's different than what we have today, that may be worth another dollar. Bill Collector
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Hold on. This 1928, $1.00 Blue Seal is valued at more than $1.00. [url http://www.uscurrencyauctions.com/prices.htm][/url] Also considering the location, Croatia. This is a very nice find. As a big "kid ", I would take it. lol
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Valued Member
United States
486 Posts |
If you enlarge those photos you can really see how bad it is. It may have been unusual to "find" it but I still think it would be more useful as a gift to some kid just starting out.
The lowest pricing on the site you linked to is only $ 10.00, and that's for one in Fine, it looks like that note is way below fine, maybe it's in good but like I've always said, it's just about impossible to grade a note from a photo on a computer. It still looks bad to me and if I had it I would gift it to some young collector just starting out. Bill Collector
Edited by The Bill Collector 08/26/2012 7:06 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree with bpoc1. It is still a 1928 (funny back) A 1928 E in that condition would sell fast, of course this is just a 1928.
I do understand that there are high end collectors that have no use for lower value/lower condition notes. But there are collectors that can not afford high value notes .. but still want a lower grade example.
I feel this note would sell in local shops from $5.00 to $10.00. I have sold lower grades for $5.00
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Valued Member
United States
486 Posts |
Like I said in my first post: "That's bad, but if you don't have one it's better than nothing".
And I still believe it's better than not having one but, not much better, kids love them because most have never seen one, and just to see the look on a kids face when you hand it to them is worth the 2 or 3 dollars that it may be worth.
I've seen dealers that wont even buy notes in that condition because there so hard to sell unless there rare, and that one is not even close to being rare. It's a nice note, to give to some deserving young kid that has never seen one
I'm not a rich guy, but I am serious about my currency collecting, and I'm proud of it. So instead of me wasting money buying things in bad or poor condition I save up an try to buy notes in at least clean VF or better condition.
Some of the notes I still need for my collection are very pricey in VF or better condition but I wont lower my standards. I'm still saving my penny's and sooner of later I'll buy a nice note that I'm proud of and will fit nicely in the collection. Bill Collector
Edited by The Bill Collector 08/26/2012 9:39 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: kids love them because most have never seen one I believe that is the target audience of this forum, so don't be surprised by the responses 
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Valued Member
United States
486 Posts |
Nickelman, I believe your correct, the more post I read here about "What grade is this and how much is it worth" it's sounding like a bunch of young school kids that are only interested in the "what's it worth". When I first joined this forum it seemed that it was more about coin and currency collecting but now it seems to be getting overrun with the "what's it worth" thing or grade this for me thing. I must have said it a hundred times, no one can really grade a note by a photo on their computer screen, they would only be guessing, and as far as pricing there are so many "guides" on the Internet it's unbelievable. John1 has many, many, times linked those "kid" questions to a price guide site. It seems that the only interest some of these kids have in currency is "how much can I get for it" they are finding newer wrinkled up currency in change or at a bank and think that they can cash it in for more than it's worth. For most currency Collectors that's not what currency collecting is all about. To bad the moderators cant put some kind of rules in place to limit this type of "look what I found, what's it worth" type postings. It's obvious that these post are not about currency collecting or building a collection. Hope no one takes my comments as bashing or snobbish as I don't mean it that way but it seems that these type of questions are getting out of hand. I realize that I'm only a guest here, but it's starting to get annoying and frustrating Maybe the moderators could give us a kiddie section or a beginners section on the CCF forum, I know a few other forums that have a section like that. I'm going to try an take some time off from these type of post and only comment on the post that are really about currency collecting. Bill Collector
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: When I first joined this forum it seemed that it was more about coin and currency collecting but now it seems to be getting overrun with the "what's it worth" thing or grade this for me thing. Most of the serious collectors that belonged to this forum when I joined have moved on, some by their choice, some not. You can see that change by exactly what you just said. I belong to other forums that have serious collectors and I can tell you there is a WORLD of difference between those forums and here. I have some nice (not great, but nice) notes. When those other forums start a "Show Your [Fill in the blank: nationals, Hawaii's, errors, Etc.] Notes" thread, I am humbled when I see the quality and quantity of the notes they post and they just don't stop coming, page after page of mind boggling notes and collections! But that can be a very harsh environment filled with people that have no patience for the kind of questions we see here everyday that could easily be answered using Google or the forum search in just a few minutes. They say there is no such thing as a dumb question. I beg to differ. The thing that makes it dumb is asking without putting forth any effort to find one's own answer BEFORE the question was asked. If a person honestly tries to find an answer to their question and is unable, then it is no longer a dumb question. And I am NOT talking about anyone in this thread, I am just making some general observations on the overall health of this forum as a whole. As I am sure you were BC. Back on topic, I save any old note in any condition. I have some real rags so to me the note the OP displayed is a keeper.  I never feel like I can have to many even in that condition. When it comes to newer notes I wouldn't save them in that condition unless it had something really good going for it, like a very cool serial number.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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There are a lot of knowledgeable people on this site that repeatable answer the same questions over and over. As you read through the post it is your option to skip the ones that you are so knowledgeable about. Or not interested in. These people are doing their best and it is the best.
Edited by bpoc1 08/27/2012 4:32 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
4078 Posts |
Nickelman Quote: They say there is no such thing as a dumb question 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1285 Posts |
Quote: Maybe the moderators could give us a kiddie section or a beginners section on the CCF forum, I know a few other forums that have a section like that. BC,I had suggested a LONG while back to the mods / admins a Sticky TOPIC be created with GENERIC links....At that time I was told not many posts on the currency side Ergo, post away continues...   It's very unfortunate some of the knowledgeable folks DO NOT post anymore.... Edit BelowHere is the suggestion (see link) I had made (9/26/2010) a while back and the ANSWER was e-mailed back to me by one of the Mods. https://goccf.com/t/72294
Edited by Ceylon62 08/27/2012 5:42 pm
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Valued Member
 Croatia (Locally: Hrvatska)
342 Posts |
Hello, thank you all. I see that my question has become has become a heavy burden. I asked for the value of the quality, because I do not collect world paper money except for NDH and Yugoslavia. But my experience it is not enough to grade the bill. So my apologies experienced collectors because, I only collect medieval(Central and Eastern Europe) coins and Austro-Hungarian empire coins, so I have a lack of experience with banknotes. Best regards ,Nikola.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1285 Posts |
Nikola You say Quote: I asked for the value of the quality GR58 and Bill collector say Quote: I feel this note would sell in local shops from $5.00 to $10.00. You say Quote: But my experience it is not enough to grade the bill Bill collector ALREADY answered YOUR original question Below Quote: $ 10.00, and that's for one in Fine, it looks like that note is way below fine, maybe it's in good but like I've always said, it's just about impossible to grade a note from a photo on a computer. It still looks bad to me and if I had it I would gift it to some young collector just starting out. Bill Collector
nikola, there is a wealth of INFO on this forum. Read and read again (which is what I DO).
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Valued Member
United Arab Emirates
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Guys, With all due respect to all of you as Knowledgeable collectors &/or extensive Researchers, nikola, in my humble opinion did NOT commit a crime!!  The guy has asked a simple question, & after that I've started seeing "sarcastic" replies after the first post by The Bill Collector ... Why you are giving him a hard time?!! I don't know him & am not trying to defend him for some hidden reasons, but, it makes me get upset when I see some venerable members started getting annoyed & then exploded!! No offense, if you do NOT like such posts & consider them "kiddie" or "trivial" or whatever, why you don't skip them & NEVER look at them? Even the whole community members may start pressing "ignore" button till such posts fade to black?! Then NO ONE will post such a "kiddie" question in the future (as, the way you see it). Why we can't simply get a long to go a long?The guy is OBVIOUSLY not from USA. Besides, he's NOT into Banknotes. Besides, he's ONLY into "foreign" Coins ..... Top of that, he has already APOLOGIZED! The venerable member who says that search before you ask (or something like that), I totally agree with him, however, I would be highly appreciated if he could teach me how to search such a "topic" & ensure that the other thread is uploaded with SIMILAR note I have & SAME grade in order to AVOID wasting members' precious time?! As you all are aware, grading differs from country to country ... For instance, if the uploaded US Dollar was an Egyptian note with the SAME grade, it would be considered VG-F. I'm NOT trying to brag here or something, but, if you do not care about the grade or you would consider VF grade as an acceptable example for "inexpensive" notes because it's eventually, about a hobby & NOT money ( I TOTALLY respect such a point of view), there are other collectors out there who care for grading because they CLUB hobby with future investment for scarce & rare notes (I'm one of them ... because I'm keeping this notes for my grand children like maybe after 20 years). It doesn't make sense at all for someone who purchases RARE notes to IGNORE grading & pay a considerable amount of money because it's all about only hobby (unless, this guy is a Millionaire or something). Again, NO offense & with all due respect ... Cheers
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Valued Member
United States
486 Posts |
Sorry James4444, And others that feel the way he does. I guess you didn't read this part of my post:
"It's obvious that these post are not about currency collecting or building a collection. Hope no one takes my comments as bashing or snobbish as I don't mean it that way but it seems that these type of questions are getting out of hand"
Sorry you did not like what I wrote, but that's the way I see it.
Please read again what Ceylon62 said, he's been here a long time and has seen how things have been changing.
"Bill collector ALREADY answered YOUR original question Below $ 10.00, and that's for one in Fine, it looks like that note is way below fine, maybe it's in good but like I've always said, it's just about impossible to grade a note from a photo on a computer. It still looks bad to me and if I had it I would gift it to some young collector just starting out" He also said: "It's very unfortunate some of the knowledgeable folks DO NOT post anymore"
James4444, Ever wonder why ?.
Also please read what Nickelman had to say he's also been here a long time.
When I said: "When I first joined this forum it seemed that it was more about coin and currency collecting but now it seems to be getting overrun with the "what's it worth" thing or grade this for me thing"
James4444, This is what he said: "Most of the serious collectors that belonged to this forum when I joined have moved on, some by their choice, some not. You can see that change by exactly what you just said. I belong to other forums that have serious collectors and I can tell you there is a WORLD of difference between those forums and here"
Again James4444, wonder why ?.
This is one of the first forums I joined, I like it, so much in fact that I was thinking of becoming a CCF supporter, and now that I have done the over 250 post thing I was thinking of passing on my duplicate notes to the members here before I put them anywhere else.
But the way things have been going I don't think there are many that would be interested because there not all wrinkled up and of low grade. Only kidding, but I hope you get my point.
And of course I also notice that the more knowledgeable members like zeewool and many other knowledgeable collectors don't post or try and help here any longer, again wonder why ?.
Like I said, I was going to give this some time off but your post about me and my truthful "sarcastic" post pushed me to write this reply.
Sorry you did not like what I had to say but again that's the way I see things going. This can be a very helpful forum and hopefully the Mods can help in some way so that the knowledgeable collectors will start posting again. Regards Bill Collector
Edited by The Bill Collector 08/29/2012 2:21 pm
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