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An Example Of Clueless Auctioneers

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 Posted 08/30/2012  6:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add errorone2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is a perfect example on what is wrong with Canadian auctioneers selling errors .They don't have a clue what is real or not .

This is definitely a fake and should not have been accepted as a consignement.

http://www.icollector.com/1916-One-...ia_i13822190

There is also another suspect piece

http://www.icollector.com/1942-Five...ng_i13822191
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 Posted 08/30/2012  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add change4thebetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Hi errorone2012

I was wondering, because I'm fairly new to the world of coin collecting..and fascinated with errors...why you concider these to be fake.
I appreciate your feedback.

Thanks
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 Posted 08/30/2012  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

What is that first one? The reverse of a 1916 Canada large cent someone pressed into the obverse of 1904 British half-pence?

Are we supposed to believe it is a 1904 half-pence that made it into a 1916 Canada large cent business strike line and then had an offset flip-strike with a large cent? That is one magic loogie.

Of course, if it could be proved the 1916 coin traveled back in time to 1904 Britain, it would be the most valuable artifact in human history. :)

(Oh, if only the $1.35 million cent guy had this!)


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 Posted 08/30/2012  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
change4, the impression of the 1916 coin is from a coin (its image is impressed in reverse).

if it were legit the image left by a coin die would be raised and not indented, and readable (not a mirror reflection of a coin)

any kid with a hammer and 2 pennies could create this "error"
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 Posted 08/30/2012  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add change4thebetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Ahhh Okay...I'll remember not to ask questions on two hours sleep...and to remember that consider is spelled with a "s"...not a "c"...haaa...creating my own "errors"

Thanks...goodnight
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 Posted 08/31/2012  12:47 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll examine both coins in hand, when I get to Toronto for the auction and coin show. I'll also be traveling with two experienced error collectors as well. I'll bring my digital scale for the 5-cent Tombac. I too am skeptical about the legitimacy of those errors... but I'll hold my judgement until I see them in hand.
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 Posted 09/27/2012  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I, and others, examined the1916 struck on half-penny. Definitely PMD, and pulled from the auction.

We also examined the 1942 5-cent, it too is PMD (likely ground for a bevel setting), but remains in the auction at the request of bidder.
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 Posted 09/27/2012  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the 1942 is confirmed PMD, Maybe they should change the description of the coin to reflect that it isn't a true error in case someone else comes along and sees it and wishes to bid because it's listed as an error. You'd think the auction company would be putting themselves legally at risk to continue on with inadequate description.
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 Posted 09/30/2012  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G.Bell was receptive to the pleas of the error experts present at the auction.

After being briefed about error coins, GB committed to consult the error experts before accepting consignments of this type. I have reasons to believe he will be in touch and this will not happen again.

The sad part of the whole incident is that GB consulted someone, a self proclaimed expert, who told him the error was legit.
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