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 Posted 09/06/2012  12:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add steviepunx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
In case you haven't seen my other posts, I introduced myself and am an extreme newbie. I have no coins. What I'm really interested in is old Roman coins and have a few questions. My wife is Roman which might be why.
1. How do I even start? It seems quite daunting with as many different coins are available.
2.I'm interested in cleaning old coins, but would HATE to destroy anything. What can I practice on?

Any kind of tips on what to do will help a lot. Also what's your favorite Roman coin book? Thanks!!
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 Posted 09/06/2012  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buy an uncleaned lot, very cheap, like less than $2 a coin. Post em up and people will help you ID them.

As far as destroying one of them, I practiced on the back of a coin and did the front properly. Dont do that. Get a really bad or common coina nd practice it.
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 Posted 09/06/2012  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Collecting the ancient coins is quite difficult for the Newbie as it was and still is for most of us. If you are looking at Roman coins, that is a good place to start. You could in theory collect coins of the Rome Mint. There are different kinds of Roman coin that you can collect. There are coins of...

The Roman Republic c. 350 BC to 27AD
Roman Emperors c 27- approx 450 AD
Roman Provincial (coins of the provinces) 27- 450 AD
Byzantine (Eastern Roman Empire) Coins c. 500 - 1452 AD

The coins can be collected in...
AE = bronze, Brass and similar base metal alloys
AR = silver, including silvered base metal coins
AU = gold, very rare, very expensive, not many collectors own any

There are also Billon an alloy of silver and Bronze and Electrum Gold in alloy with silver or a base metal Bronze/ Lead and the like.

In my experience when I wanted to buy ancient, back when I knew slightly less then I do now, I would just search ebay until I found a coin that matched my criteria, I wanted a good obverse of the ruler and a well detailed god on the back. The Silver AR denarius for the most part is a good place to start. You can find a good example of a "common" ruler for not a lot of money. (Generally Speaking)

I hope this helps.
There is also a good book by Zander Klawns that I use. It is a quick over few of the different types of Greek and Roman coins and offers a great deal of information on how to read the Roman Legends. Which are often in Latin and also commonly in Greek as well. If you are anything like me you will have your work cut out for you as you will be familiarizing yourself with ancient text. The text on the coins is often worn and difficult to read. If you do find a coin with nice legends then the attribution of the coin if it is not already completely attributed will be relatively easy. Just remember that most often the inscriptions are an abbreviation of the rulers name often with IMP (Imperator) COS and Roman Numerals. COS refering to the Consulship (the top job) and numerals the years since taking the job...

Again I hope this can help you out, and congrats on your interest in Ancient Numismatics, it is a very select few of collectors who enjoy these relics as we do.
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 Posted 09/06/2012  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few years back I thought I'd give it a try to buy an unclean lot and clean the coins. I made a disaster of it. I'm not patient enough, and I destroyed the patina on several coins. I've also said this here before, I think cleaning coins is mostly an exercise in futility. Not all, but most of the "coins" you will get in an uncleaned lot will be very common 4th century coins worth not much more than the $2-$3 you will pay for them. Many will turn out to be just slugs. Once in a while, as with some on this forum, you might find something worthwhile. I guess that's the gamble one takes. Personally, I would advise buying those same 4th Century coins already cleaned and identifiable for not a whole lot more. But I'm sure you will hear otherwise from those who like the hobby of cleaning the "possibilities".

Whatever you decide to do, post your coins here before you buy. Many here will give you their opinions on the quality and value. Good luck.
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There are several methods to clean ancient coins. I prefer soaking in olive oil. A search on the web will show them all.

I would look for the cheapest lot of uncleaned coins on ebay and practice on them. You will soon get the hang of how to properly clean them.
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 Posted 09/06/2012  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steviepunx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for the advice. I've been reading up on how to clean, and have looked at lots of "cheap" uncleaned coin lot for sale. I'll try on those. When I get a lot, I'll post pic and see what you all think. I like the excitement of cleaning and not knowing what you'll find, but understand I probably wont find coins super valuable. Since I'm new I just want some coins in had to look at and work on!!
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The following is how I proceed with an uncleaned lot:
1. distilled water soak and tooth brush
Repeat for and couple of weeks
2. Mechanical cleaning with sharpened brass or copper wire (be carefull not to harm the patina)
3. If all of that is not working follow up with a long olive ooil soak

Also search here on CCF for previous cleaning threads. There are many:)

Good luck and have fun!
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I didn't start cleaning coins. I decided to try and collect as many Roman Imperial rulers as I could find. I have 45 since last November when I started collecting. Along the way I've purchased many other types. I've purchased a couple of lots. Lost one in the mail system somewhere. The recent one I'm still working on and was a lot of fun. I decided to keep collecting as I have been.

I haven't gotten to the point or found what I eventually want to specialize in. There are many possibilities that you can figure out as you go along.

Here is the first coin I ever purchased for about $5. It was a really good start for me.

How-Does-A-Newbie-Start

Constantine I - The Great

Constantine I AE3. 326-328 AD. CONSTANTINVS AVG, laureate head right / PROVIDENTIAE AVGG, campgate with eight rows, two turrets, no doors, star above, top row arches and dots in blocks, bottom row empty blocks, ramp at base, pellet in right field, SMTSE in ex. RIC VII Thessalonica 153

What I learned from that coin is how to attribute coins from the Constantinian era. I read a lot about Constantine I which is history. I learned how to read legends. About mint locations, officinia, etc, etc.

If you check my signature, you can see what I'm collecting and how I'm doing it. I'm going for low budget coins, mostly.

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