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1909-S VDB For Help On Purchase

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 Posted 09/10/2012  4:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My friends father passed many years ago and his brother got the coin collection. His brother has decided to let the collection go. My friend brought his brothers collection to me so I can go through it. It looks like it was picked clean and I'm getting the last of the dregs. The good news is there is a 1909S VDB remaining in the collection. What do you guys think about condition? As always, I really appreciate the help.


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 Posted 09/10/2012  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first thing you want to do is verify it's authenticity. Sending it out to a reputable TPG (PCGS/NGC/ANACS) is a must. All I can say is looking at the mintmark location charts for known 09sVDB's the mintmark location matches photo #2 http://www.pcgs.com/Articles/Detail/6062 . Others here are more experts with this issue than I; they can give you more info.

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It looks like it was picked clean and I'm getting the last of the dregs.


If the people that "picked clean" the collection left this, they are not very observant!
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09/10/2012 5:12 pm
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 Posted 09/10/2012  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I agree, if I was going to pick the collection 'clean' the first one to go would have been the '09SVDB.

The coin looks like F12/15
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 Posted 09/10/2012  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I see, I'm gonna say it's authentic. There are scary fakes out there so authentication is a must. As far as grade goes, I would say vg 10 might pull a f 12.
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 Posted 09/10/2012  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice full wheat ears, looks F-12. Couple planchet laminations, the S and VDB looks correct. I think you have a good one.
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This coin needs conservation and slabbing. It looks like some environmental damage/verdigris is setting in in a few places.

Details are on the F/VF border. I can't tell if it's over F or under VF but there is nice detail remaining.
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real and f-12
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 Posted 09/11/2012  03:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easy F12, might squeeze a VF out of it. Send it to PCGS....DO NOT CLEAN IT OR TAMPER WITH IT.
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Thank you guys for all the help. I would love to know what was in the collection before I saw it. My friends father was born in 1909 and I believe this is why he had the coin. The reason why I believe the collection was picked over was there were notes in the Morgan silver dollar book with how much he paid for CC Morgans. These prices were 22.95 and others a little more and some less. My guess was he started collecting at a young age. No gold coins that I ever saw. I still haven't gone through the rolled pennies and nickels plus all the loose pennies and nickels. I'm sure it's all commons but I've got my fingers crossed. There is 125 dollars in face value of silver. Not too shabby.
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F15
Sounds like a good time
looking through all that
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 Posted 09/14/2012  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent it to PCGS. I'm getting a pretty good deal on the coin. When I get the coin back I'll post the results. Thanks.
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Smart move! GOOD LUCK!
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 Posted 09/15/2012  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Telestrat27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me, and I could be really wrong, this coin looks cleaned with Fine details.

Absolutely still worth it to send it to PCGS, totally the right move.
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My initial impressions is that your coin is authentic, from the second obverse die. Not sure if it were mentioned, but it is a subtle woody.

Cheers!
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 Posted 09/16/2012  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPC24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks great to me! PCGS will be the final judge, though. Whoever did the "picking over" really had no clue.
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09/16/2012 10:32 pm
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