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What would the grade be of this 1818/7 capped bust?

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I'm sorry, but your images are much too small to grade by. It would also help if you photographed the coin without the mylar holder. The mylar makes the details seem flat when they aren't.
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I'm sorry, but your images are much too small to grade by.





We can't really give your coin the justice it deserves with the pictures you gave us...

(I would guess VF-30 but that's seriously just a guess...)
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ok, how do I make the pictures bigger because it only will let me go up to 100 KB (this size).

Thank you
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agreed...i would like to see it outside the holder...it seems like a decent coin for sure...
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I agree with Moe VF-30 could be higher with better pictures.
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Can't get my magnifying glass close enough to the screen. Looks like a nice coin but need larger pics.
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Hitting my CTRL and + keys, I'm able to magnify these pics.

I'll say XF-40 on this one ... While the resolution is a bit blurry, I can still count a lot of feathers on this bird! Also, the coin appears to have an appealing gray color.

Nice catch!
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Here are better pictures:


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With the new photo I would go VF 35 possibly XF 40. I like her.
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Much better pics; thank you.
The surfaces appear to be original, but it is a little hard to tell since the pictures were taken through mylar. With the amount of wear visible on the clasp, hair, and eagle's wing, I'd have to say VF20.

This is the Overton O-102a variety, which has a rarity rating of 2.
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i would still like to see it outside the mylar...

i cant tell that left hand wing with the plastic over it...is that wear? is that surface issues or is that the flip?
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It is out of the mylar, just on top of it.
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i want to say that their was an old cleaning that is leaving some surface issues, or there is a light source issue that is creating that discoloration across the reverse...that left wing is rubbed more and I dont think that is related to the strike...

Susan, BY FAR, trumps my knowledge so I have to stick with her VF20 although I am going to scour HA and see if I don't find some 30/35s that look close to this and educate myself even more...I would suggest the same in order to get a real good feel of what causes subtle grading differences on this series

either way, you have a great coin and I want one!
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It is out of the mylar, just on top of it.


In this case, I definitely feel this coin warrants a VF20 grade. The left wing and clasp are usually the areas that show the most wear. Also, the claw detail is worn to a VF20 point. This is another good place to look.

I do not think this coin has been cleaned, though the toning is an interesting color. That could be due to album toning or environmental issues during storage. If it was "cleaned," then it was dipped. I see no evidence of hairlines or rubbing.

In short, this is a very nice coin. I particularly like this variety. I like this 1818/17 overdate better than the O-103 variety which is more rare because the overdate is more obvious. I hope I find one as nice to add to my personal collection. I prefer VF-EF conditions in this series because of the cameo-like toning that happens as the coin wears.
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Maybe it's some blurriness in the pics; I just don't see enough wear to warrant grading this as low as VF-20. Sorry, Mom!
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