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Focus isn't sharp but details appear soft, partly from strike and possibly from light wear. The shield especially seems poorly defined considering the apparent luster. Head is definitely not full. Color is kinda blotchy, could be original toning or could be what developed after the coin was dipped.
Based on these photos, AU-58 would be my guess. Depending on how PCGS judges the surface originality it could have been relegated to a Genuine holder with a code for altered surface, cleaning, or artificial toning.
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Jaobler, I really like your assessment...it is soft looking and I do attribute that to strike, not wear...it is original toning and very lustrous at that, in hand...it is not a genuine details grade of any sort, it made a straight grade...i wont reveal quite yet, I just want to see a few more guesses and i'll post in the morning (EST) regardless of any other input...
thanks for taking the time to review it gents...
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MS63 and not a full head.
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I think the pic is a bit blurry and usually the standard for 'full head' is way more lax on the later dates since they always come struck like that.
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the way NGC did on the 1840SLD I might send this them and get an MS70FH...lol thanks for the grading guesses everyone...  |
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Eh, unless you want it for a type set, I'd have it re-subbed.
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if I resubmit it, do I send it to NGC in the PCGS holder?
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I would not resubmit this coin. The AU58 grade is due to the area above the knee and on the highest point of the shin. There is subtle cabinet rub there. I had one of these a few years ago that I thought for sure was going to come back from ANACS in a Choice BU grade. When it came back as AU58, I sent it back and spoke directly to James Taylor about it and we discussed the reasons for the AU58 grade. Hope this helps.  |
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it does help tremendously Susan. I am okay in AU58 and at first I was going to crack and plug into the 7070 but have since decided to keep it slabbed and go buy a different example for the type set.
I'll be breaking out the 30X loop tonight and scouring over the cabinet compared to similarly toned examples on HA in MS to gain education in what to search out for future reference in eying this series at the higher grade levels.
This forum is by far the best educational warehouse known IMO. I say that time and time again as it proves itself time and time again.
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Many times I have found a high AU coin to have better eye appeal than a low MS coin.
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Cabinet rub usually is ignored by TPGs on a real nice coin, though. Also, sometimes the pictures can make it literally impossible to tell.
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09/14/2012 8:06 pm
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