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 Posted 09/15/2012  02:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm afraid not trout. Here is a comparison of Sheldon Grading to ANDA grading from Walters own website.

http://www.numismatics.com.au/Blog/..rading_Guide

scroll down a bit and you will see that AU-55 is the equivalent of aEF.


I have to politely disagree, a coin with a score of 60 is uncirculated ergo a coin with a score of 55 or 58 has to be AU and AU+ respectively.
That would make the AU-50 the top grade for an extra fine coin , as far as my understanding of the cross reference of the grades goes
By your reasoning a AU58 is only EF.
Are you trying to say a MS-60 is AU and a ms-63 is AU+
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From what I have seen graded as AU-50 and 55 theres no way its an Aussie aUNC. The AU-55 I got from walters auction the other day is a nice EF in my mind and the AU-58 is aUNC. I think what walter has put together is pretty much on the money.
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I wouldn't bother trying to compare the two standards, my chart is just a guide, EF Sydney mint sovereigns rarely grade above AU50 but EF florins often make AU58. ANDA standards aren't consistently applied between each series because they measure detail whereas PCGS measures wear.
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I wouldn't bother trying to compare the two standards, my chart is just a guide, EF Sydney mint sovereigns rarely grade above AU50 but EF florins often make AU58. ANDA standards aren't consistently applied between each series because they measure detail whereas PCGS measures wear.

This ANDA - Sheldon thing is doing my head in.
I am more than happy to grade my coins using the ANDA system of grading ( I'm old school) and I have only been looking at the Sheldon system because of the proliferation of slabbed coins in the marketplace.
It took me years to be able to grade "Old School" and I am doing my best to be able to cross grade coins so that I know what I am buying.
Obviously I have a long way to go yet, So bugger buying "Graded/Slabbed" coins from now on.
I think I will just stick to what I know and buy them raw
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 Posted 09/15/2012  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This ANDA - Sheldon thing is doing my head in


You're not alone on that, that's why I suggest learning to grade as PCGS does rather than trying to grade as ANDA does then converting the grade - It's very useful to learn PCGS' grading especially when purchasing on-line. Because of their consistency, you can get a pretty good estimation on what to expect from the grade alone in all factors other than colour (for copper), eye appeal and strike, all of which are fairly easy to work out from a photo.

On the other hand when you buy an ANDA graded coin on-line you have no idea of the condition of the surface of the coin and you need a very specific style of photo to be able to work it out from the photo (95% of photos on-line focus on making the coin look good rather than showing the details you need to assess the surface).
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