1857 Flying Eagle Cent

It hasn't arrived yet. This is the seller's picture. I won't be able to remove it from the 2x2 for about a week.

Chance

I believe that this profile repeats 3 times on the obverse of this coin, the first being the snow variety, and another between the one I outlined and the "normal" clash at thecoin's eastern edge.

It's not unusual (in my observation) for this chattering effect to be present. I have seen it over and over.

My day job...is one of "engraver". I am a very details oriented individual and I have spent endless hours studying these coins.

I'll run across one that has the eagle's head from the double eagle repeated and will save, edit, and post the picture. The pick up point for that one is a broken (segmented) line with a vague suggestion of a keystone in the center. It appears on many issues of these 2 years. Why? ... That's the mystery.

I am not that knowledgeable of the minting process as far as the nuts and bolt of it goes. There are only so many hours in a day, and I haven't slept since yesterday as it is. I do find it interesting that the discussion of this phenomena has been going on for some time. I would like to read that piece. Heck, I'd like to read a lot more ... but I have 2 more jobs to finish before I get a nap and get back up to "do it again".

Thanks for your input. I have an appreciation for criticism, but I don't feel that condescension has any place in any of these discussions, and get a bit tweaked when that kind of message is imparted. There's just no excuse for treating anybody that way.

There are 3 distinct 7s BTW.

Chance

I actually believe I do see something above the date on this one, not sure if its clashing from another type or what it actually is but I do see some type of ghosting pretty high from the date

But we love to speculate!

The shape I see above and between the 5 and 7 sure looks like the top of a misplaced 7 digit. Since misplaced dates are fairly common varieties in early US coinage it seems possible this is an example. If so it is unusually obvious and would likely be of great interest to variety specialists. Has a similar coin already been described in Flying Eagle references?

The wisdom or foolisshness of speculation is tied to expenditure for me. This coin was inexpensive. I don't see a down side.

It's enroute to me from Ft Myers Fl. and will be a few days getting here. When it arrives, I'll shoot some decent close ups of it.

One man's speculation is another man's study. By studying these impressions left on the flying eagles, it has become necessary to study coins of other denominations. Being able to recognize the bits and pieces of other designs is imperative.

The first FE cent pictured in the "Beyond the FE Cent ...Mule clashes" thread ... I have decided that those "streaks" for lack of a better description match up favorably with the rock to the left of the shield of Miss Liberty on the Half Dollar.

That rock is another subject altogether though ... because there are several different versions of detail in it. Some of that is related to clashing as well. I saw a half that somebody was pointing to some minor aspect of (I forget what is was now), and what I noticed, that they didn't (apparently), is that most of the folds in the drapery to the right of the shield were completely absent. The coin was not worn excessively, nor did it appear damaged.

The more you look at this stuff, the more puzzling it becomes.

Chance

Considering the seller is a longtime member here, why don't we just ask him ourselves?

Take that image ... crank the contrast on it and see if you see anything else.

I decided to pick this one up as well. As worn as it is, it's an interesting coin for other reasons.

While I haven't seen an awful lot of obvious lamination peels in this series ... it sure seems to be an alloy that is poorly mixed, leaving places where dissimilar metals meet, which encourages corrosion via electrolysis.

Chance