Tell Me Again How PCGS And NGC Are Better Than ANACS And ICG

We were so excited to get our coins and then totally deflated when we looked at them. Very disappointed

basebal, that is just bunk IMO. If you are Gods gift to grading and the Jesus of grading (as PCGS and NGC supposedly are) no way something like that should get through. Thats an excuse. And not sure how a chunk of metal would get onto the coin after having been graded, because that is clearly a part of the coin. And if your operation is the platinum standard all others must bow to, how in Gods name do you drop another coin onto an already graded coin before it gets slabbed? What kind of non existent controls are there that would allow that to happen?

Again, these are supposed to be the companies no one can possibly compare to and you get amateur results like this. There is NO EXCUSE. As VACookey just said, we would be just as well off getting an MS70 from SGS.

bio, I looked at it again, and realized that it is raised on one side and a divot on the other. So it is not a chunk like I thought. But my point still stands. And for it to have divoted like that, the other coin had to have been like launched from a coin shooter or something. Like a one of those t-shirt launchers at a concert.

That's why I don't consider these graders experts by any means.
Sure they see more coins than us but at the end of the day it's an opinion.

The thing is its not that common though. If you search them out you can find some examples, but they also graded somewhere between 60-100k of those. The other thing is they stand behind their work and will buy back mistakes too correct the issue which is all you can really ask for.

CAC isn't necessarily even saying that PCGS or NGC got the grade wrong when they dont sticker just that its in the lower end of its grade. Something like CAC it was only a matter of time before it started because people are always looking for ways to say their coin is better than other coins. CAC gives them a way to further separate their coin from the pact. Knowing how competitive humans are by nature I can honestly say the existence of CAC doesn't surprise me.

People say to use PCGS because its worth more because thats what the market says which really wont be changing anytime soon. New collectors are coming in with PCGS and NGC being the top dogs, and they have the money that they arent endanger of going out of business. If anything theyre just expanding more at this point. ICG and ANACS make more than their fair share of mistakes on coins as well and do a far lower volume.

Space ships and planes are more complex but also have the tightest quality control around, but the point was that literally everything humans do mistakes happen. I just dont think its fair to hold TPGs to a standard where every single thing they do is expected to be 100 percent perfect when nothing in the world could match such a standard. It would be nice if that were the case and its certainly annoying when the mistake is your coin, but the overwhelming majority are exactly what they say they are.

ICG and ANACS both do a fine job grading, but the simple fact that they dont bring the same premiums make PCGS and NGC the superior choice. Its like haliburton and exxon. Both have very similar financials yet Exxon trades for twice the price on the stock market. Id trust something from any of the 4 but I'm picking PCGS every time to get the most value (with the exception of CC morgans)

That may be true, but it doesn't change the fact that they are.

Its not just new members that come hear and get that advice they get it everywhere. Just simple ebay searches reveal who has the highest premiums.

And I dont think we unduly influence anyone, theyre all free to pick whoever they want. But I do feel they should be given all the available information before making that choice and the simple fact is that PCGS will bring them the highest money, then NGC, then ANACS. In terms of market premiums ICG really isn't worth using at this point.

PCGS and NGC built their reputations over time, I find it hard to believe the ONLY reason theyre considered better by the vast majority of collectors and the public is that they have better marketing departments

The marketplace would disagree with your assessment and so would I.
Nobody's perfect but PCGS and NGC are, in my experience, more accurate and more reliable than ICG and the later ANACS slabs.
It isn't just marketing that makes them more respected (although I'll admit it may be a minor factor).
As always you should buy the coin, not the slab.
Astute buyers can take advantage of the price disparity between PCGS/NGC and ICG/ANACS and get some very nice coins in the latter's slab at a discount.
I have some coins in old ANACS slab that would cross over easily at the same (maybe higher) grade at PCGS.