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 Posted 09/22/2012  11:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add benchfreak221 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just have a question, I know that there are a lot of fakes out there. I know that you can use the magnet as well as weigh it. I just recently bought a scale. How much off should the fakes be? I know some Morgan's may be a little off because of the wear. Any comments would help. Thank you.
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New fake Morgans are spot on with weight. It's really hard to judge by weight alone.

This is really the wrong forum for this thread, try the classic coins forum rather than the grading one.

I believe I saw a Counterfeit Detection book on Collectons for next to nothing that you could pick up for slightly older information.
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If it's a common date the counterfeiters use a base metal composite that will weigh around 22gr. If they are trying to pass a key date they might attempt to replicate the metal composition in a genuine Morgan and the dimensions. If they do you would not be able to tell with a scale. For this reason I would not buy an uncertified Key Date Morgan (1893-S, 1899-CC, 1884-S, etc.).

The majority of the non-key counterfeits are easy to spot for folks who look at them frequently. For many years they were using the reverse of the 1921 for pre-21 dates (look at the arrow feather design on a 1921 and compare to prior year dates). Other times they just don't pay attention to the details. I recently reported an ebay offering as a counterfeit. It was an 1878-S with the reverse of the 1879 (parallel arrow feather vs slanted arrow feather). It was being offered by a powerseller who guaranteed it's authenticity. ebay pulled the auction.
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For this reason I would not buy an uncertified Key Date Morgan (1893-S, 1899-CC, 1884-S, etc.).




Even if you want it raw better to break it out then take the chance with internet purchases
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