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 Posted 09/24/2012  08:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 14ers to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is a nice looking coin but still something about it strikes me as not looking right. What do some of the Barber experts out there think?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1897-BARBER...em19d5696348
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 Posted 09/24/2012  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2 bids so far. Someone out there likes that coin. If it stays around that price, would be great. Looks OK to me.
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 Posted 09/24/2012  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bradsbrewer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks pretty good to me! Especially if your bid lasts the 3 days left!
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 Posted 09/24/2012  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinguy1000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, I like it!
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 Posted 09/24/2012  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I cannot find anything wrong. However, Miss Liberty looks a bit fatter in her face
than I am used to seeing. Angle of camera to blame?
While there are some minor scratches on the cheek, I do not think that they are from cleaning.
A few other scratches are also present but not parallel.
Looks like it was pushed over an oak bar top and caught a few rough edges of of the wood. Customer pushes it one way and the bar keep retrieves it at a different angle.

I am tempted to bid $10 on it to see how soon I am outbid.
I say go for it.
I have it in my watch list.
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 Posted 09/24/2012  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 14ers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the opinions. I appreciate it. What gave me doubts is the hair behind the ear and between the ear and above the eye. It just doesn't look as soft and flowing as I thought it should. Kind of like the difference between the hair on Washington quarters circa 1932 vs. 2012. Pehaps it is just the lighting in the photo. I'll give it some though and probably put on a bid.
Thanks again for the input!
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 Posted 09/24/2012  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Night Hawk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could always ask the seller for some different pictures.

To me the coin looks like it's been cleaned at some time in the past and has either re-toned or been re-toned, the toning is too even, if that makes any sence....
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 Posted 09/24/2012  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU detail, sharp strike, and no serious problems IMO. It may have been dipped and has since re-toned, either naturally or with artificial assistance. It certainly is worth a lot more than the current bid ($20.50).
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 Posted 09/24/2012  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Jaobler. MAYBE cleaned, but not harshly.
The bid price in the Greysheet for an AU is about $105.
XF - $60 and VF - $27.
A bid of $40 might give the current bidder reason to pause.
At the moment I think it will go for about $80 or so.
This auction is going to be fun to watch!

The areas of concern about the hair, 14ers, is light wear on the high points. That is what makes this coin a technical AU-50. Not a concern for me.

BUT! And this is most important:
If your first reaction was that of something being "off", then it may be best for you to listen to your gut and let it go. That "Gee, I wish that I didn't buy this" feeling is not at all pleasant.

I am sure that we will all support you with either decision that you make.


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 Posted 09/24/2012  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just sent this to the seller:

Dear cookbook202,

While I am not personally interested in this coin, I and several
other members of an online coin group are advising a potential bidder about the 1897 quarter.
We would like a few more pictures, especially of the obverse.
Our concern is not about the technical grade - we all agree that it is an AU. However, we are a bit concerned about a POSSIBLE light cleaning done long ago.
If you were to send me the photos, I would share them with the potential bidder and our members. Or add them your offer.
This would be a nice type coin at the right price.
Thank you for your time.
Matthew
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 Posted 09/24/2012  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
.....and he probably blocked you, lol
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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 Posted 09/24/2012  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NOT SO FAST, Raymo52!

Dear studmv,

I've already deleted the e-bay pictures, but I will take some more. I agree with what your group says as well.. Coin is super all around except for the toning.. I think it must have been dipped somehow to tone it.. Give me your e-mail address and I'll try to get them out to you tonight if I can. I have to take pictures of some other type coins tonight anyway.. Thanks JIM Oh by the way I just saw the button on this e-mail where it says attach photos.. This is the first time I have seen that and it will make it easier for me.. Let me try that before you give my an address..

- cookbook202

He appears to be an honest chap. Let's see if he comes through.

There are a few, precious few, ebay sellers who are decent folk.
Let's all give them the benefit of the doubt ... BUT REPORT THE ABUSERS!!!!!

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 Posted 09/24/2012  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good to his word, five additional photos are now available.
Same site, but you'll need to scroll down a bit.
A nice looking quarter dollar.

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 Posted 09/24/2012  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear stud muffin.................sweet ebay name !
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 Posted 09/25/2012  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update from seller:

Dear studmv,

Thanks you for your comments.. I try to be 100% honest and as descriptive as a can. However I'm not perfect either.. From my 8 years on e-bay I've have 1 bad feedback which came last month with the buyer saying he didn't get the item although the post office said it was delivered [ the bronx NY ] go figure. I guess this coin will bring about 80.00, but e-bay has its way, it could end up anywhere between 45 and 100, but who knows.. Thanks JIM

- cookbook202

As for my ebay name:

First four letters of my last name, and the first letters of my first
and middle names. "MV" = Matthew Vincent.

Chosen when I was new to the Internet, I did not know the the "rules" yet.
I like it though. Easy to type, unlike my email name which is 15 characters long.
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 Posted 09/25/2012  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 14ers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your input and efforts here! I am amazed at what my question led to here. At the moment, I am high bidder but due to the reality of my budget I expect to get blown away in the final seconds. At least I can feel like I "own" it for another 2.5 days!
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