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Forum Dad
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During the past ten days we have received information from dealers receiving requests for gold bullion purchases. This activity had slowed for several months but appears to have started up once again.
The suspects are using different names and addresses. They also want to send cashier's checks and have the gold sent by express mail.One dealer received a bogus cashiers check and is out $15,000.
The following are suspect addresses and names:
woodsonj46@gmail.com
johnster392@gmail.com
mark.manderson128@yahoo.com
gregcondon15@yahoo.com
tOc3nmodz@gmail.com
902 Jimmy D'Angelo Way Myrtle Beach, SC 29572
8563 Quail Dr. Show Low, AZ
175/176 Burkholder Dr. Ephrata, PA 17522
The emails received are written with broken English in the body of the text. Suspects are wanting quick responses, payment via cashier's check and purchase sent express mail. Dealer's who have received phone calls have indicated the subjects are of foreign nationality. These are all red flags!!
Dealer's should use extreme caution and screen thoroughly before completing any transaction.
Doug Davis
Founder/President
Numismatic Crime Information Center
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Blows my mind crooks think they can cut corners and do FAST transactions and get away with it. They may a time or two but the gig is up and the hammer will come down on these crooks, mark my words.... In this day and age where we are all tracked digitally on camera and card each and every day all day long. And considering a crook has to pick up and send, just a matter of time until they get em..... I also hope there is a special reserved place in this guys  basement for people who steal from honest working people trying to feed their fams.... Stealing from a crooked corp is one thing and still not right by any stretch of the imagination bringing ones self down to that level, but way less offensive to me then stealing from hard working honest people.... This is what they got coming if I ever catch up with them  Edited by Silverhawk74
09/28/2012 9:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm wondering if we can report such suspect to the FBI/Secret Service and put some kind of operation to catch these guys.
I've got a couple inquiries w/ similar process for stuffs I try to sell Craigslist (even furniture... lol) so I gave them the mailing address & phone number of the police/sheriff station hoping that they will do something w/ these guy. I even tried to email the station and let them know about it but I guess in this budget cut time, they didn't have anyone to care for such interstate case. The guy saying he's Florida & his agent will come and pick up my stuff after he send express mail for the payment.... after about a week, he started sending me follow up emails saying why I didn't follow through (I guess he did send the fake cashier check and out some express mail expenses for sending the check).... he sent a couple emails and then stop.... I was laughing the whole time....
I am still wondering how you can report someone sending a fake cashier check via USPS .... I thought that's a felony crime (mail/wire fraught & money laundering).... the main challenge is this is an interstate crime and who's in charge of catching/prosecute these guys? Anyone know of a process, I really want to have a few of these guys put in jail for some good time?
Note: They put pressure onto you, make it sound important, so that you don't have time to think and research.... it's how they are getting you.
Edited by SA4H
09/29/2012 03:58 am
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I thought interstate cases go to the FBI. Not sure about fake cashier checks. That may depend on if its intrastate or interstate.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These operators are largely Asia-based and Africa-based, so the FBI and all other American law enforcement are a joke to them. They print up and send out "cashier's checks" and "certified checks" by the truckload and if one out of 1,000 of their attempts are successful, they're richer and happier. Google up " Walmart mystery shopper scams" for a little insight into one of their other games. The crew working that one is Phillipines-based. Broken english, bad grammar and disjointed syntax are sure warning signs and anybody in a big, BIG hurry is a MAJOR warning sign. The mandatory business motto for our brave new Y2K world is "Never make a move until the check is finally and totally cleared - FOR SURE." |
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I thought interstate cases go to the FBI. Not sure about fake cashier checks. For those theyd more than likely be sent through the mail or wired which would almost certainly cross state lines and be in the FBI jurisdiction. I believe the FBI also takes over if the fraud reaches a certain level. If these guys get big enough which its sounds like theyre well on their way the FBI will certainly step in. Theres a ton of ways they can legitimize the take over of the case and most local police will ask for their help on things like this just to free up their own people to cases theyre more likely to close. If it was all done through the internet they could probably justify it if the information just passed through a server in a different state |
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, the FBI does investigate interstate crime as well as various federal offenses, including espionage and kidnapping among others. The Office of the US Postal Inspector General also investigates any crimes related to the use of the US Postal Service for criminal activities. More info here: http://www.uspsoig.gov/faqs.cfm?SECTION=GENI would not want either of these groups after me.  |
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United States
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Thank you for the heads up
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Valued Member
United States
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In the end, it all boils down to common sense. Do not be blinded by greed. If something looks too good to be true, it usually is. I sometimes buy and sell on CL and I have seen all sorts of mails requesting shipping of packages, payment by paypal, posted in Afghanistan and lot of other crafty stories. Some of them had very good English but others had weird English. What I do is whenever I get an out of ordinary request, I google the keywords with the additional word 'scam'. I always see some blog where there is detailed information on how the scam works. Doesn't hurt to be careful!
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Pillar of the Community
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In the end, it all boils down to common sense. Do not be blinded by greed. If something looks too good to be true, it usually is. Indeed. If everyone followed these ideas, scamming would disappear becauee no one would fall for it.  Quote:
Doesn't hurt to be careful! No, it doesn't. It is FAR better to miss a good deal than it is to get into a bad one. |
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