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 Posted 10/02/2012  7:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add iraqandroll to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi just picked this up today and was wondering if someone could tell me about the 'S'. It is an 1875S and it seems like it was double struck.

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 Posted 10/02/2012  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yessir, that's cool! It looks like an S/S to me - S over reversed or upside-down S. Very neat. The 20C on it's own is a pretty cool coin.

The '75 S is the most ubiquitous with a mintage of over 1M compared to under 30,000 for all but the '75 CC (133K). But I'd gander a guess that the S/S variety isn't quite so common.

Let me do a little more digging.
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 Posted 10/02/2012  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoungNumismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did some research on this when my friend told me about it being posted and I can not seem to find an S over S variety listed anywhere. I would seriously send this in to be graded. You might have something unique here.
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 Posted 10/02/2012  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nah, actually, it looks like I've got it backwards.

After running through my typical online resources (PCGS reports a population of under 1500 in all grades for the '75 S) I pulled out Breen and found that:

The "Clear" S (meaning normal) is scarce. The "$" S where the serifs are enlarged very scarce. The "Filled S" like yours is the most common.

Sorry if we got your hopes up. But hey, I learned something new, so thank you! And of course, I ain't nobody. Can't hurt to have an expert give you the full reports.

Thanks for sharing!
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 Posted 10/02/2012  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's a known S/S for this date. You're going to see it most clearly at the serifs.
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 Posted 10/02/2012  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iraqandroll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A little closer

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 Posted 10/02/2012  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iraqandroll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the help. The center of the S is where it is most obvious in hand, not necessarily in the pics. I paid $13 for this coin. I was buying several others and the person showed me this and asked for $13. I couldn't pay him and get away quick enough. I honestly do feel a little guilty though.
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 Posted 10/02/2012  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen an 1877 Trade dollar, where the 'S' mintmark was presented in exactly the same indistinct manner.
For both coins, I would advise further investigation.

Hard to get an exact weight for this 20 center because it presents as so worn. For weight, an equivalently worn known genuine 20 cent would need to be compared against it. Perhaps a comparison ring tone test may help.

Superimposed images with an known genuine example may also help, but again, you run into the same problem with the amount of wear.

Someone with extensive specialist experience would be needed to give good opinion.
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 Posted 10/02/2012  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my old thread, my coin was in better shape and I pulled a good pic of the MM. The rub marks are from the flip it was in, and not on the coin itself. Thank goodness!

If your coin matches mine, you'll find a MPD in the denticles, too. By the way, there is no premium on either RPM on this series.

https://goccf.com/t/95607&SearchTerms=1875
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 Posted 10/02/2012  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 'S' in that coin looks a bit different from that in this thread.
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 Posted 10/02/2012  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is either a filled die or the S was repunched. It is quite common for this year. Here are pics of mine, also showing the misplaced 8 in the denticles which was also common.

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 Posted 10/02/2012  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To be honest, the only thing doubtful about that 1877 'S' tradie I have seen is the mint mark. If the 'S' was re punched in BOTH coins to produce exactly the same result, I feel reasonably happy that both coins are genuine.

It's just that I am not quite up to pace on SF mint marks and their varieties during this period.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iraqandroll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well either way, it is in my Type set album. I was looking to buy an 1875 quarter, the guy kind of tossed it at me across the counter, with an attitude, and said it was $13. Were it not for his holier than though attitude, I would have pointed out his mistake. But his attitude cost him. Thanks for the help everyone.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Well either way, it is in my Type set album.
Well done. I think any Twenty Cent coin is a good to have, regardless of variety.

The Twenty Cent is my white whale. I let the perfect one get away a few years ago and have yet to find one like it since. If I had never seen that one, I would have otherwise filled the hole by now.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sirdizzy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That coin is an absolute steal for $13.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iraqandroll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too bad her front is in poor shape. It is def. a good filler for now, I wanted that spot closed in my type set.

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