Is This 1878 7TF A Missing Feathers Variety?

Hi, and yes this is a missing tail feather variety..How ever it will take more than one photo to discover just what it is,, I have my own thoughts,, with little to go on, 198, BUT PLEASE,, don't assume thats "what it is", as much more is need to conclude what it "really" is...
198 could be far off.. as there are missing feather varieties that don't post it as a missing feather, such is VAM 144...your VAM will have many a pick up point that will determine its actual VAM assignment..But WE HERE at CCF need more than a small shot to determine
what it is..Full Obverse and Reverse are needed with the 1878 series....Gene

Here are the Pictures you requested. On to the hunt to figure out which VAM it is.

Coinguy1000,

I don't believe it's a 116. That variety features prominent doubling on the front of the 'P' in Pluribus which I don't see in your photos.

For all 1878-P B2 reverses, if you can't post close-up or high resolution photos of the coin you can still help us by verifying a few things:
- Is the 'o' in God open or closed?
- Is the 'r' in Trust broken or complete?
- Is the bottom of the 'D' in Dollar complete or partial?
- On the obverse does the 4th right star (viewer's right) have any broken points or is it complete?

If an 8TF coin try to get an enlarged picture of the feathers between the legs and wings.

If a 7 over 8 TF a close-up of the tail feathers, arrow shaft between the tail and arrow feathers, and ribbon bow are needed.

If a B1 reverse: Are the olive leaves detached or complete and is the nostril open or closed.

If a C3 reverse (rev of 79 slanted arrow feather) a picture of the feather between the eagle's right leg and wing (viewer's left) is needed. C3 coins have much smaller pick-up points and as such are very hard to attribute without large, high resolution photos. But with this info we can put you in the ballpark.

For your B2 reverse coin here's the ballpark based on the pick-up points addressed above:
- Closed 'o', complete 'r' and complete 'D' - Vams 100-133
- Open 'o', complete 'r' and complete 'D' - Vams 140-146
- Open or closed 'o' and incomplete 'r' - Vams 160-189
- Incomplete 'D' in Dollar - Vams 134, 190-198.

With an incomplete 'r' it's between 160 and 189. Looking at the 'L' in Liberty on the headband, check 188. Again, it's really hard to tell with those photos.

Check out 186B .. especially the over-polishing on the wings.

nver mind found the die break in the 8!

your estimated value....

" of course condition, then rarity, and ultimately collector interest "

As you can see from the previous member's statement, there is much, much more than the actual cash value on Vams!!!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$ is NOT a collectors 1st priority, for some...... :)