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Counterstamped Flying Eagle And Die Clash Error On 3 Cent

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I won this auction here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/19073652256....m1497.l2649

I looked up and got information about most of these coins but can't seem to find out about the 3 cent nickel's die clash error and the Flying Eagle cent with the counter-stamp "D. Clark". Does anyone know anything about this counter-stamp and does it add value to this coin? The 3 cent nickel has die clash in the places arrowed below. Does this add to the value of this coin and are die clashes on devices rare and does that also add to the value?



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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just about every one of this type of coin has clashing. I bought one before I knew the series well that had the whole head on the Reverse and allot of the wreath clashing on the Obverse and I thought it was so cool. That was before I found out that it is allot harder to find one of these with no clashing than it is to find one like the one I had. I am not sure I see the flying eagle clash you are referring to but I do know just about every 3 cent nickel has clashing


Edit: I found some pictures of the one I had and I hope you can see the clashing I was talking about in the pictures. I can't tell if the one you are showi8ng is just the same type of clash or a FE clash like you are saying

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Actually I noticed those are letters on her face. I was told by someone that there are no letters on the back so they are not clashing. Any idea about those letters on her face especially the "S" on the ponytail and letters going to the left? I was actually talking about the counter-stamp on the flying eagle not clashing and if anyone seen this counter-stamp and does it add to the value?
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maybe someone else will be able to see what you are referring to but I can't make out what you are talking about
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I actually have to wait to I get the coin to take a look. I was also wondering about the counter-stamped coin in the ebay lot. Does anyone know about them because I can't find much of anything. I know people do pay premiums for counter-stamped coins but is there any type of standard on worth outside of what someone will pay?
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buddy16, welcome!

Unfortunately, it would be impossible for there to be a nickel 3-cent clash with the Flying Eagle cent (FEC). The FEC was only produced 1856-1858, and the coin you show is from 1865. That is the first year of the nickel three-cent piece.

Also, it is not possible for there to be clash marks on the raised portion of the coin. That is because the dies that strike the coins are incuse in those areas. Thus, when two dies strike without a planchet, the fields of the dies connect. This means that clashes will only be seen in the field of the coin, or the lowest spots.

If you look at Bryan's coin, you will see the clash is only visible in the fields.
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I was talking about the counter-stamp on the flying eagle in the ebay auction. I think I need to get the 3 cent nickel in hand to see if it is an error coin, it could be a weird pic. As far as the flying eagle, in the auction, it has the counter-stamp D. Clark and fours.
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Just to make things clearer, I am talking about two coins, one is in the ebay link lot and the other I provided a picture of. The 3 cent nickel I heard had an error and the second coin in he ebay lot has a counter-stamp.
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If there are error on the 3ΒΆ nickel, its ever so minute or worn away to add any premium value.

As for the counter-stamped IHC, it all depends on collectors what value one would pay for a overly defaced coin. IMO its not worth more than a dollar, but someone else may pay a few dollars more.
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 Posted 10/16/2012  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The counter stamped coin in the lot is actually a flying eagle. I thought that myself, there appears to be no guide for whether someone would pay a premium. One place I found I could look was completed auctions on ebay. Sometimes they pay a premium for the counter stamp, other times not. I did look at exonumia.com but they only list all the counter stamps out there, mine is one of them. As far as the error on the 3 cent piece if any, I really have to get the coin first to make any determinations since it may just be the digital picture.
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Here is the counter-stamped coin:



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