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 Posted 10/16/2012  7:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just picked up 3 Barbers that are too shiny. I don't believe they have been whizzed, whirled or whatever but would a dipped coin be ultra shiny like that? What can I do to " tone them down" so that they don't look so bright against the rest of my 120+ year old coins?
I'd post a picture but I'm awful at photography! Maybe I'll post one later when I am home.
Thanks for any help,!
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 Posted 10/16/2012  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gotta have a pic to help. Anything anyone might suggest would simply be a guess until we can see the coins.
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 Posted 10/16/2012  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If your trying to remove a cleaned surface using them as a pocket piece is one way, the wear will get to the natural metal inside the coin. I've heard of people burying them as well
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 Posted 10/16/2012  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dipping will make a coin dull not shiny. The only thing that I can think of that will make a coin shiny is polishing
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 Posted 10/16/2012  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silvercoinrn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What are coins dipped with when they are dipped? And if it makes them dull what is the purpose?
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 Posted 10/17/2012  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add slowaltima to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dipping referred to is most likely acetone. Acetone would be for cleaning the coin. Have personally not tried it before to speak from experience on it and the effects.
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 Posted 10/17/2012  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back in the Sixties cleaning with baking soda was
widely done.

Here are two quarters showing approximately identical stages of wear.

The example on the left was cleaned with baking soda.
The example on the right - not.

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with basebal21...seems like a good candidate for a "Pocket Piece". I have a 1907-O Barber Half in my pocket right now.
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 Posted 10/17/2012  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All three are extremely smooth especially on the front. I'm thinking polished but as noticed above, no scratches. So my plan is to leave one on window sill, one in my pocket and I guess I'll stick one in the dirt. It seems counter intuitive to ...okay, new plan. I'll leave one as is. Just can't stick it in the dirt,
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 Posted 10/17/2012  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depends on if polished and with what. If an actual metal polish, might have to dip in Acetone to try to remove some of it. Also, I've had some luck with laquer Thinner to remove polish. Regardless of what is used, try the old just laying the coins on a kitchen window sill. First put a piece of raw wood there and on the inside, not outside. Outside they sometimes vanish. The period of time for this is dependant on how much the kitchen is used for cooking and what is cooked. It usually takes time but most coins will tone down over a period of time using this method. BUT if it is covered in a polish, will not work at all since the polish keeps gasses off the coin.
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 Posted 10/17/2012  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thans Carl. I did soak them in acetone for about 5 minutes. Is that long enough?
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 Posted 10/18/2012  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rather than start a new topic on cleaned barbers, I got this Barber dime in with a lot of UK dinged-up coin thats going for melt soon.

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Now this has obviously been cleaned to my untrained eye (a lot more than is showing in the pictures above) - are there buyers for such a cleaned coin and should I throw it on the bay sometime or because it's cleaned just throw it in the pot with the others? (yeah, I know, getting a lot of devil stares from the numis types for even mentioning it!)
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 Posted 10/18/2012  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The dipping referred to is most likely acetone.
Actually, dipping typically refers to the use of E-Z-Est (aka Jeweluster).

With silver, E-Z-Est will strip away a layer away and remove all toning. Used incorrectly it will leave a coin blast white, dull, and lifeless.

If you have to ask how to use E-Z-Est, then you should not be using it at all.
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Coinaholic73, there are people who would buy that Barber dime in its present state. You would value it two grades lower than what it would grade without having been cleaned or the melt value whichever is higher. It, too, is a candidate for some pocket time.

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...with the last two posts. The typical "dip" is a chemical mix that strips off a microscopic layer of oxidized metal (i.e., toning) and will also remove original metal surface if overdone. Many of the dull silver coins offered on ebay have been over-dipped.

The Barber dime might fetch a decent price on ebay since many collectors will accept the dull surface to get that strong detail. It's definitely worth well over melt value.
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When I saw the title of this thread, this is what I thought I was going to see....


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