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Check out this slick 1859 IH Cent I recently acquired. I would say PO-01.

Would there be any added value if this were certified as PO-01; are there a low population of such coins?

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 Posted 11/11/2012  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats a great coin for a lowball collector!
I think that Graded PO-1 coins have a higher value if certified
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 Posted 11/12/2012  02:08 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS shows zero certified at PO1. You might have a valuable coin if you can get it in a top tier TPG holder. An NGC PO1 sold for $374 a few years ago on Heritage!
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 Posted 11/12/2012  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$374 for a PO-1 1859? Wow, need to dig through my junk pile and start getting thos things certified!!
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An NGC PO1 sold for $374 a few years ago on Heritage


Now that's just silly, I mean really?
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Its fair 2 IMO : (
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The $374 result was from the beginning of the low-ball craze. Might be different today.
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 Posted 11/12/2012  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, get it in PCGS plastic as PO-1 (which it appears to me to have a very good shot at) and you may have $$$.
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IMO: It is consistent with PCGS "photo-grade" standards @ PO-01.
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This is a lovely well-circulated coin ... and I admit to all that I am a fan of well-circulated coins.

This might grade at PCGS as P01 ... most likely FR02 as wisely suggested above.

There are a number of serious collectors (myself included) who enjoy honestly circulated coins as visual counterparts to our MS sets ... and while IHC are not my thing ... I can appreciate and enjoy the history behind a coin such as this and the stories it brings to our imagination.

If your goal is re-sell for highest possible price ... then indeed a PCGS P01 holder would do it.

Let us know how that works out for you.

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I personally can't see this grading FR-2 with the almost worn flat central design and weak/worn away lettering around the rim and the nearly worn smooth reverse. With not much more wear, I am not even sure you can identify the date even on this one year type because the date and the wreath will be gone. I think it will most likely grade PO-1 at PCGS. Here is an example graded FR-2 in the registry and in comparison, yours is in a lower grade.
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The problem is that ANA standards basically say that a coin must be almost obliterated to grade PO-1, but the TPG standards are different especially on morgans. L
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The reverse is practically obliterated, I would personally grade this at PO1 but what the TPG might say is a flip of the coin
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That faint date reminds me of the faint date on my PO01 1934 Texas. This is a lovely coin.
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I am considering joining PCGS for 1 year to get the 4 free submissions, just for this coin. I'm sure I can come up with 3 others to send in.

I will be at the Baltimore show on Saturday anyway so I can get extra opinions from some folks down there.
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Ok well here it finally is:

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