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 Posted 11/22/2012  8:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
what do ya think MS67?
reverse is almost perfect, except little rim ding, and the obverse is near perfect except one bag mark on the neck

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 Posted 11/22/2012  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice, with what looks like plausible album toning. However, I wouldn't consider any grade approaching MS67 without substantially-larger pics. By that level, you're really starting to scrutinize the coin. Heck, I don't think I'd bestow MS67 on a Morgan without the coin and a loupe in-hand.
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 Posted 11/22/2012  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There isn't much to see close up except how beautiful she is!
Gonna ship her off soon to get graded, will let ya know
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 Posted 11/22/2012  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Obverse looks like it may have at least PL surfaces, can't really tell by the photo on the reverse to say if it does as well. This is a beautiful coin and could grade pretty high but its a little hard to tell what exactly it does grade from the photos provided
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 Posted 11/23/2012  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would get a good shake from the TPG's - 1880-S is the highest-graded individual year, on average. There are 9 Morgans in MS-69 slabs; 6 of them are 1880-S. Heck, an MS-67 1880-S is a bit more than a $500 coin, which is silly cheap.
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 Posted 11/23/2012  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that it may be a PL but I am just not quite sure if both sides are PL. I guess it could grade either MS-65 or 66 and possibly PL as well. I am eager to see the results as it is a beautiful coin!
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 Posted 11/23/2012  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

just seeing if this one shows up larger.
you guys are right the obverse is PL and the reverse is close
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 Posted 11/23/2012  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is as large as I can keep them because the image optimizer shrinks them, the images are off my ipad, is there anyway to downsize the file size before I send it from there


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 Posted 11/23/2012  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who do you guys recommend I send it to to be graded?
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 Posted 11/23/2012  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking MS65 and maybe prooflike. She's a beaut! Send to NGC.
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 Posted 11/23/2012  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to agree with 1893S and call it 65, with a shot at 66 because the fields are so nice. NGC would probably call it 65* because the obverse certainly looks PL to me.

Keep in mind, though, with this issue that grade still leaves you with a coin worth less than $200. They come easy in high grades. NGC and PCGS together have slabbed over 25,000 higher than MS65, which is ridiculous even if you factor resubmissions. Those aren't likely since it's about the cheapest MS66 Morgan you can buy.

As regards the image sizer, drop Bobby an email or post a thread in the Support forum asking for the free Gallery that CCF members of your seniority are eligible for. This will greatly ease your image limitations, and it seems worth it because your iPad, in typical Apple fashion, sure looks to have one heck of a mobile camera.

Crop your images as close to the coin as you can, 800px square or the largest you can do, and save them at slightly-reduced quality. 300-400kb isn't unrealistic.

Edited to add: Just noticed you were in need of editing assistance. I'm not an Apple guy and can't help; hopefully someone else can offer a decent iPad image editor.
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 Posted 11/23/2012  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help SsuperDdave, ya the iPad has a pretty amazing camera on it, but the images are almost 2mb lol!
So the pictures do take quite a hit on quality and size.
I am just waiting on a few other coins I have purchased and then off they will go to get graded so will probably be about a month.
Cheers and have a great rest of your holidays
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 Posted 11/25/2012  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd call MS-65, I've had quite a few 66's and a couple 67's over the years, while not rare, this one IMO falls shy of 66 territory. Just too many tiny ticks around the neck/jaw line area. I don't think it would make PL either.
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 Posted 11/25/2012  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm calling it 65, obverse on the way to pl! Lovely coin.
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 Posted 11/26/2012  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
65 sounds about right
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Wow, she's a real looker!
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