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What Do You Think About This Victorian Half I Saved ?

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 Posted 11/27/2012  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks 54, nice to see someone thinks the same as I do. For the record no other coin was harmed in the restoring of this 1898 hahahha... I'm surprised as to how easy it was using what I had on hand ..No abrasive materials at all...just common sense....54 when NGC does this type of stuff do they slab the coins after with grades and acknowledge the restorative work
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 Posted 11/27/2012  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Took better than 60 hours of love


Really?

I would have let it be ... all I see now is a cleaned coin.

David
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 Posted 11/27/2012  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If there is tell tale evidence of cleaning they will net grade as in the two CC dollars I sent in , an 1889 and an 1893. With some the resto work is not a factor and the coin will grade out without detractions. The purists in the hobby think what NCS does is abhorrent, the realists realize it is sometimes necessary! Cars and Artwork are restored all the time to preserve them for future collectors to enjoy........why NOT coins? Now I have "whacked" the hornets nest! Any intelligent discourse is most welcome as this subject is relevant in todays numismatic world!
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 Posted 11/27/2012  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nickle and what do you see in the original pics? a damaged coin asking to be left alone? just curious...
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 Posted 11/27/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your probably right, I wouldn't have bought the coin because it wasn't a very attractive original coin. You were the one that had the coin in hand and had make the call whether to clean or not. I also do believe you would not have cleaned the coin unless you thought there was no other choice. There are so many harshly cleaned, damaged, coins in the market today. I just try and detour people from any kind of coin cleaning. And you did ask for our opinions. Not trying to criticize anyone here.
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 Posted 11/27/2012  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wireman you are right.............many coins have been harshly cleaned by the inexperienced. On the other hand if one is an expert in restoration ( yes the two are quite different) the results can be amazing! I certainly think Arts half is a lot more desirable now than it was .
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if it was for keeping for your own collection and you dont mind "restored" coins I say it's your coin and your collection, do what you want

but in cleaning, err.. restoring it, I think you've limited your sales audience by a large percentage. it's still yours to do as you please but from a business perspective it doesn't really make sense to me.

also, at 60 hours x minimum wage you are "invested" another $600... you would've been further ahead to sell it "as is" for half of what you are asking.

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 Posted 11/27/2012  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wireman you are correct I did ask for opinions and I take nothing to heart..I also tell people not to clean coins ..but there is cleaning to make them shiny and then in this case to save it.. I just think it looks much nicer now... and if I sell it well it will surely look better in someones collection than the before would have...man I love coins.
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54 thanks again for seeing it the way it is..I wish I was an expert in this , as this was my first attempt... Wade as for the time spent in doing this it could have taken me 100 hours and it would not have made a difference..I would have done it for anyone. All I have is time so why not use it to save this from the junk pile...
I know this subject is very touchy with many collectors but its nice to hear all the comments...
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i am curious to know what took so long (what methods are you using) to clean it up? I suspect you could've gotten similiar results using reverse electrolosis to strip away the top layer of the coin and free up all the surface junk. (ok... i'll admit I've experimented with zapping junk coins to see what the results would be!)
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 Posted 11/27/2012  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah the ways............! Hmmm!
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wade I have no idea about reverse electrolosis..but the stuff on this was not dirt . I wont say here how I done it but lets say old fashion hands on elbow grease..Nothing abrasive, no wire brushes, no chemicals..and it worked awesome I think.... So you have cleaned coins yourself hahaha..and how did your method work
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We have all seen what a typical "Cleaned" coin looks like. Most of the time its rookie collectors looking to turn a toned, dull coin into what they think will grade mint state. I too tend to agree with the fact that other forms of collectibles are cleaned and restored. Original mint state will always sell more then restored mint, but restored mint usually out sells fillers and beaters.
Just my opinion.
Great conversation none the less!
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The best thing you can do with that coin, is stand it on edge, in a sunny windowsill, for 4 months. Then rotate the coin, and wait another 4 months. It will have a soft grey tone, and while still look like a processed coin, it will regain some of the eye appeal.
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Thanks Spp I just might try it ..
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