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Is This An Error 1883-O Morgan?

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 Posted 12/06/2012  1:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Vinnie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,

Here is an odd looking (to me) 1883-O.

The strike seams very weak and looks poorly defined, almost mushy.

Am I missing something and is this just a regular Morgan?

Thank you for any input!

Vinnie



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 Posted 12/06/2012  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
New Orleans was notorious for weak strikes. I believe that might the be the case here.
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 Posted 12/06/2012  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try submitting larger pics. Your current images may be too small for the experts opinions.
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 Posted 12/06/2012  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does the reeding look normal? Check all the way around the circumference.
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 Posted 12/06/2012  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vinnie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few more pics, they are as close to the size limit as I could get.

Thank you for the input so far.

The reeds on the 1883-O are on the left, they look slightly more shallow but not by much at all.

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 Posted 12/07/2012  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very odd coin. When I first saw it I thought what I'm sure Superdave was thinking and why he asked about the reeding. It has all the look of a broadstrike. But it has reeding so a broadstrike is out.

Coinskelly mentions the fact that New Orleans was known for weak strikes, but the hair over the ear says to me that this has a stronger strike than normal. You don't usually see that much hair detail on a weak strike.

I'm wondering about the possibility of a strong strike but on an un-annealed planchet?

Another question is what is the weight? Is there a chance that this is a fake? Years ago some of the fakes tended to look like this with relatively strong centers and weal peripheral details and odd curved look of the fields rising up to the border. But I don't recall having seen an 1883-O like that.
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 Posted 12/07/2012  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vinnie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it to be real - it weighs 26.7 grams which is on par.

What is an un-annealed planchet - that is something that I have never heard of.



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Planchets are annealed(heated and then cooled in a controlled manner) to soften them for striking. An unannealed planchet would be harder than an annealed planchet.
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 Posted 12/08/2012  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vinnie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for the explanation! I am learning alot on this wonderful forum!

Is there a chance that NGC/NCS would be able to identify if it is an un-annealed planchet and then slab it?
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I wonder if this was a trial strike. Yeah, Vinnie, I think this one belongs at a TPG.
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