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what variety snow? is this

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FS301 S-1....so...Snow 1 variety. Is the coin as light colored in hand as the photo suggests?

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iT HAS BEEN CLEAned all I do is scan them with my kodak printer at 1200resolution
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Set this one on the window sill. Flip every couple of days. Report back in four to six months.
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I have one just like this except not cleaned. I bought it by mistake as it was the 1869/69 that I needed for my album. I love it though. That's a nice one you have. I've never tried the window sill method before but I'm thinking about trying it as you hear about it all the time.
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Strong RPM.
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Or put it in an old manilla (brown) coin envelope.

Put between a bunch of coins, tightly packed.

Check in 6 months, it should start to tone back.

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what is the window sill method?
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nice coin even if cleaned. Still has potential.
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what is the window sill method?


Precisely what acloco said. Throw it on a windowsill which gets both sun and shade. Flip it occasionally. Be prepared to lather, rinse and repeat for at least months and probably a year or two.

The result will not make the problem go away completely, but it will improve the situation to the extent that you'll be a lot happier with the coin.

This one is not savable. It will never "not be cleaned." Any sharp-eyed numismatist will always be able to see the damage. But it's possible to improve the coin. Understanding that, from this point onward, regardless of how much better you make it, you must always acknowledge this coin as no less than "recovering from a cleaning."
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Good advice Ssuperddave

But a word to the wise...he doesn't literally mean lather rinse and repeat. He just means repeat the action until the coin looks satisfying.

Just saying
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btw thats a sweet overdate!
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I would love to put this coin in a home that appreciates a nice cleaned....coin.
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Shame about the cleaning--but it's still a very nice RPD!
With dramatic RPDs like this, it makes you wonder if mint workers thought nobody would notice?
The old date was partially polished off the die, but a 'skeleton' of the digits often remains such as on the dramatic 1894/1894.
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With dramatic RPDs like this, it makes you wonder if mint workers thought nobody would notice?
The old date was partially polished off the die, but a 'skeleton' of the digits often remains such as on the dramatic 1894/1894.


I just think nobody cared back then, the mint is running like a factory assembly line, got to get the coins made and out the door as fast as possible, every day. Collectors didn't really get serioous about collecting or paying increased prices for stuff like this until the 1980's. Not saying there weren't collectors, there was the famous 1955/55 and slightly lesser 1972/72 Lincoln cents but not until Bill Fivaz and JT Stanton Cherrypickers Guides come out when the error/variety collecting really took off. Now the smaller series of coinage, it is almost always a variety that will bring the big money out of all minted, ie: Buffalo nickels 1916 DDO, Mercury dime 1942/1, Morgan dollar 1878-P VAM 44, etc.

I love this coin cleaned or not, and would love to have one myself.
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I just think nobody cared back then, the mint is running like a factory assembly line, got to get the coins made and out the door as fast as possible, every day.
Or another way to put it--they may have cared, but only to specific tolerances set by the mint. After mint workers polished off most of an RPD or overdate, I'm betting that nobody thought collectors would look for it--many decades later.

There's quite a difference between mints and how much they try to remove underlying dates--such as this 1858/7 FE cent to this overdate from Peru.

Imagine the research involved to verify the discovery coin for this FE 1858/7?
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...compared to this obvious Peru 1901/1890--even I can see that one!
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