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Help With I.d. Please |replica Spage Guinea Gaming Token

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Help-With-I.d.-Please--|replica-Spage-Guinea-Gaming-Token

Help-With-I.d.-Please--|replica-Spage-Guinea-Gaming-Token

Thankyou!

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 Posted 12/11/2012  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like a Spade Guinea.
If it's genuine, it ought to weigh 8.4g.
The effigy doesn't look correct, and the reverse legend is, I think, wrong, so ...
I'd say you've got a brass gaming-token.
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Thanks Peter, only weighs 2 grams and sounds very brassy.!
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Sorry to disappoint but it is a brass gaming token available everywhere in the UK for about £1
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Sorry to disappoint the disappointers, but haven't past threads on this topic demonstrated that these 19th-century tokens are collectible in their own right? Some varieties carrying a fair premium?
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philadelphian,

I want you on my team.
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http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/brit...Holst_63.txt

Game Token, 19th century, brass imitation Spade Half Guinea
made by WCB & Co., Birmingham.

Obv: GEORGIVS III DEI GRATIA, laureate head right.
Rev: W.C.B.ET.CO.DG.IT.REX.FD.B.I.R.M. 1790, crowned coat of arms.
(Legend of the genuine coins is
M.B.F.ET.H.REX.F.D.B.ET.L.D.S.R.I.A.T.ET.E.

Originally minted from 1787 to 1799, the spade guineas and half
spade guineas were later copied extensively and used as
advertisement and game tokens etc. The reverse legend of
this example has the name and town of the makers, "W.C.B. ET CO...
B.I.R.M. 1790".
Value in good condition is about $20 to collectors.

Holst 63; Imitation of Seaby 3735.

Contributed by Anneli Lindblom, Jan. 2012.

**

William Charles Bagnall & Co(W.C.B. ET. Co. on the token) was a token maker in Birmingham(B.I.R.M. on the token) also known as Charles William Bagnall, engraver, of 16 Hockley street, Birmingham
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Thanking everyone for their valuable contributions- Much Appreciated.!
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This coin was used to play poker with because gambling was illegal called a spade Guinea
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