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1795 S-78 Being Passed Off As A 1793 Lib Cap

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 Posted 12/15/2012  6:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is obviously a 1795 that has been altered to look like a 1793, then slabbed in some basement by some ... person.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...B:SS:US:1123

Unbelievable. Well, not really I guess.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definately a 1795. Will report to ccw
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 Posted 12/15/2012  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kellyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has 13 bids...
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 Posted 12/15/2012  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And who would bid on a 'slabbed' coin without seeing the reverse?
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 Posted 12/15/2012  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And who would bid on a 'slabbed' coin without seeing the reverse?


Uninformed collectors. Or what I like to call them, "bidiots"
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 Posted 12/15/2012  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The odd part is the high bidder placed four more bids after becoming the high bidder.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dma110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the seller has any idea of what he is selling. I just checked all his listings. The only other coins is a set of Presidential dollars. All the rest is electronics, watches, & tools. Someone that knows nothing about coins
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I just reported it. This has to be removed. The bidders are just ignorant and have no real knowledge in Numismatics (or haven't bothered to educate themselves).
As far as this basement slabber, could be the seller.
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 Posted 12/16/2012  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomtom777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is too bad the people bidding can't tell that this coin is altered.
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Does this date really look altered? With a dark enough pic, and a worn enough coin, and a big enough buyers' market of people who buy the slab and not the coin, I don't think you need to bother to alter the 5 to have this scam succeed.
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 Posted 12/16/2012  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It still looks like a 5 to me. LOL
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Not a basement slabber, this was at least a somewhat legitimate service back when it was in operation. It ran far about three years back around 2000 to 2003. Still how could you miss this one? To me the 5 looks like a 5, and how did they miss the fact that it was significantly underweight for a 93 and that the lettered edge was missing? (The S-78 was struck in 1796 on plain edge planchets that weighed about 25% less than the old lettered edge planchets. They are lighter and noticeably thinner. Kind of like the difference between a CN Indian Head cent and bronze one, ignoring the color.)
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They missed a lot of things, Isuppose that's why they aren't around anymore.
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Listing has been removed by ebay
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