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1797 One Cent Counter Stamp (A Real Mess)

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I found this one around 1989. I could take you to the exact spot I dug it but the land is now covered with houses. I believe the marks are counter-stamps. The reverse is just about gone but on the obverse you can make out the date and part of Liberty. This one is a mess. Any ideas on the chop mark?



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 Posted 12/16/2012  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is an interesting piece! What makes you think it's a 1797?
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1797 is visible with the coin in hand. Very hard to photograph.
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Maybe this helps a little?
When you hold it at the correct angle the date is legible.

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Yup, 1797.
No idea of the countermark. Cool find!
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Given the size of the letters which appear to be set in relief, along with the crude workmanship, I'm inclined to suspect that this was the issue of an early toolmaker and/or blacksmith. It appears that one mark is atop another. If so, this was perhaps more of a simple test piece as opposed to it being done as a means of circulating advertising. Pieces like this one evoke far more questions than answers ... still, fun!
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