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Here is a question for the purists. In the summer of 2010, my garage was flooded by a heavy thunderstorm. I had a few boxes of nickel 25c (mint rolls) in the garage at the time. They were submerged, soaked, in rainwater and street runoff. I dried the boxes, but left the coins in their original plastic rolls, and set them on a shelf in my basement - "you can't hurt nickel" is what I thought. Now, in 2012, I finally got around to cracking them open. Some coins are actually stuck together, and corroded, but some are toned. The toning on some of the coins is a beautiful soft rainbow, and some have vivid toning patterns, like gasoline on water... Would you consider these coins artificially toned, or naturally toned?  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
Edited by SPP-Ottawa
12/23/2012 11:39 pm
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I think natural with the help of mother nature this one looks good
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What about these?   "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Two coins from the same roll, one toned and one BU.  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Nice! and naturally toned.
I think AT implies intent.
How many nicely toned silver coins are the result of the way they were stored?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Interesting thing SPP I have come across many nickle coins with that same pattern or type of toning ...It must be natural because none of the ones I seen were caused by flood waters.....
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hmm.... "naturficially toned"?
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Very pretty and cool!
What do people think caused the toning? Little bits of material carried in the water that oxidized?
Edited by Smallcentguy
12/24/2012 2:30 pm
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I was with SPP when the rolls were cracked.
Nickel tones to a graysh color, not to the rainbow that some of these coins show. These colors are caused by deposit of crystals (and organic material), not by the natural reaction of Nickel to the atmosphere. In my mind, there is no difference between this toning and the ones cooked by toning experts but one: SPP did not fabricated the toning of these pieces.
Yes, I am a purist.
... and I am talking against my own interests since I had the privilege to select the nicest ones - a full 2000 set plus many 1999 and olympic.
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A coin is toned when it changes colour, no matter how it was done or how long it took -- buried, submerged, or stuck under a torch. I agree with DBM; artificial toning implies intent -- whether buried, submerged, or stuck under a torch. Thus I believe SPP's coins to be naturally toned, because there was no intent to alter the coins on his part. It does, however, raise a bit of a question. Down the road how is a future owner of these 25c going to know how they were toned? Is it important? Will they even care? They should, in my book.
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I had and still have some 1871-1971 BC silver Sp dollars that have toning and some with no toning, the ones that are toned have the sponge pad that come packaged in the case and the ones with no toning have no sponge pad.
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Natural toning as well! Very pretty!
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You know, I am sitting here with tons of these toned coins in my basement... so I decided to grab some from the 1999 series, and figured I would offer them to anyone who digs this sort of thing... http://www.ebay.ca/itm/301265149716"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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